Why don't people help any more?

I make it a rule to always help other people whenever I can.

With the places I go, I know I'll need somelse's help one day.

Just hope that Karma really does work.

Hi Andrew,
Some possibilities as to why not
1/ May be they don't know . ( if they are in a 4by this equates to zero care factor)

2/ Driving 4by shopping trolleys. ( no recovery gear )

3/ OR their day out consists of jeering at others.

What goes around comes around

So long as we do the ritey

Good job Andrew

Because we have lost a sense of community and are much more interested in material possessions - that's the simplified version.

Mike Harding

Just feel good about yourself and a job well done......similar thing for me a week or so a go.....Three young blokes in a new pajero, no idea, no recovery gear and fast fading light. took me about 10mins out of my day...they are ever so humble and greatful and I feel good about myself that I could and did help....Funny thing about this one will be how will the driver explain the muddy water marks half way up his door trims to the boss...Was his company car LOL...but I did my laughing after I got him out!!!

Cheers
Stefan

Why? This is one example of why!
I was sitting in the mangroves, minding my own business about 4 years ago, near a creek which ran off the main river (Bohle river, Townsville) Some rat in a nissan stationwagon drove straight into the black salt pan, about 100 meters from where i was (Bottomed out, Big time) Him and his drunken mate come over to where i was fishing and asked if i can help him, Yeah i said ill try but i doubt very much ill be able to pull you out. As i was in a short wheel base with no winch and he had a very heavy nissan stationwagon. Hooked the shorty up to the nissan, tried and failed, several times. As time went on, it obviously got dark and i sugested to the bloke, all i could do was give him a rope and a shovel and wish him all the best, as i didnt know anyone with a heavy duty truck or any recovery gear. I asked the bloke to return the shovel and the rope when he got out.! Yeah ok he said. Cut a long story short, He burnt the clutch out of a 8 tonne truck, he burnt the clutch out of a 10 tonne truck and recovery was by a backhoe 3 days later. I have no problem helping anybody, and i always will. But i will never help HIM OUT AGAIN EVER! As that rotten bastard still has my rope and shovel.

Must be a QLD thing, never seen anything like it it Vic.

I will help most out if I have the time, but sometimes on the way home from a day out bush with tired kids and a wife that didn't want to go in the first place, taking on a recovery that will take hours takes some selling.

I have done my duty in the past though. Spent 4 hours digging and trying to recover a 60 series when I was in a Sierra, only to find that when we got it out of the slop that the gearbox had cracked in half. This was 200m from the Bruce Hway, 10km south of Townsville, so there were plenty of witnesses too, no helpers.

I have also recovered guys and broken my equipment with no thanks at all.

On the weekend I drove into a bog and got hung up. It was one of those holes where you know the chances of getting through are low, so we had the gear out and had backup available to tow me out, but still had another group stop and offer help. This was on sundown and they were drivers from the Sydney region, so maybe there is hope ;-).

I blame 4x4's becoming comfortable and affordable. No longer are the only used by bushies and old farmers that would give you the shirt off their backs.

Can't say I've not helped people out, but from what I've seen, beaches and saltpans attract their share of idiots. As above, they usually have the combination of no recovery points, no gear, and no idea.

To attempt a snatch recovery on a vehicle thats sucked into the sand, with no rated points, is asking for trouble. Very much within your rights to say no, and offer to find the local recovery service.

Glad the guy got out easily, but I can understand reluctance in a beach situation.

A few weeks ago we were up Rainbow beach way and came across a dead Landie. They had been there 3 hours trying to get someone to stop and help. They also had a 3 month old baby with the tide coming in and mother freaking out. 100's of vehicles had been past them but none had stopped to help.

We towed them off the beach to safety and they were more than grateful.

All part of a good day out and we know that Karma does work but also it is in our nature to help others in troouble

I think part of the problem lies in the fact that many (no, not all) have no idea how to recover a vehicle. With the huge explosion in four-wheel drive use and ownership many simply don't realise the value in ensuring you know what to do when it goes wrong. This is why many become stuck, and equally why many don't offer assistance, they don't know how.

A good four-wheel drive course for all new four-wheel drive owners is essential as many just think they go anywhere, all the time, without any hassle.

Some of it is people are more self-centred these days, but also like everything else , lawyers are stuffing it up. Slightly off topic but these days if you hold a current Senior First Aid certificate, and don't stop to help someone who requires first aid, you can be sued. If you stop to render first-aid, and something goes wrong, you can also be sued. So the safest option for you to keep your home, car etc is to look the other way and walk on by. It's very sad the way modern society has gone in the last few years.

Good on you for helping. The Aussie spirit is to help so I think most people would. As with everything that is not always the case. What goes around comes around..!

Why?, well in my humble opinion it's a couple of things.
1} The lose of community spirit and common decency as mentioned before.
2} Fear. fear of getting involved with other peoples problems. fear of strangers. fear of having a problem oneself after assisting, eg. getting hurt. And why do we have these fears, just watch the news and all you get is doom and gloom. And if you are like me I stopped to help a couple of clowns one day, and because they didn't listen to a word I said I ended up stuffing my back, lost my job and now find it hard to do anything, were is my help. All I get is sorry sir there is nothing we can do, if only you had done it at work, or my favourite is, well you could sue them.We no I can't because they don't have anything and I have no grounds on which to sue them. So you ask why we no longer help this is why.