Daylight Saving In WA!!

" Daylight Saving"? There is no such thing. Call it time juggling

When does it start?

Finally, I am glad it's here - sick and tired of waking up with the sun at 5:00 am, I can now get a sleep in and make the most of my day.

Had to laugh at some of the things that were bought up against it - such as 'We will be eating tea in the hottest part of the day' - who eats tea at 3:00pm!!!

Hopefully after the three year trial it will get in.

Karl

I disagree-

I think it is a sad day for Western Australia.

This will be remembered as the day that Perth became the centre of Western Australia, geographically as well as politically, to the detriment of rural voters, a day that will be remembered as the day that the Chamber of Commerce was given the keys to the city.

Such a shame.

Yah, I'm happy for you guys, it's a good thing.

a) Why do we need it when it's daylight until 9pm at night in the middle of summer anyway?

b) Who gives a crap about there being "an extra hour". There's not, just get out of bed earlier you lazy SOB's.

c) Now I have counted that I have to change the time on 17 clocks! And then 17 back again for somthing that I don't give a bleep about.

d) I have an aircon in my bedroom so it won't bother me, but the kids don't. So they go to bed with an extra hour of the 42c day heat sill in there rooms, yay for them.

e) "We are now in-line with the rest of the country". WTF? Sorry are we talking about by having Daylight savings? Cos QLD and NT don't have it. Or are we talking about the time difference to the eastern states, because I'm sorry to break the news to you but we are still 2 HOURS behind!?? What a pathetic argument that one is. Hell I used to run a business that purcahsed 90% of it's stock from the east and it really wasn't hard to +3 hours, even dumb ass packers could work that one out....

d) We voted and voted and voted and said no no no, they gave us a trial and we voted and we said no, so now they FORCE it onto us for 3 YEARS before we get any say on it at all. Democracy? What's that? If they were dinkum about giving us a trial and then getting us to vote on it, one year would have been plenty, but they are trying to condition the public into just accepting it. Every moral bone in my body is anti this thing because of that ALONE.

Victorians, Tasmanians yeah great, it's probably a good thing for you, but we don't need it here, anyone who thinks we do obviously doesn't spend any time outdoors anyway. They probably think YAY I'm going to have a great time out in the sun, down the beach after work.

What? Is getting up an hour earlier in the day going to give you more energy after work is it? Are you going to be less tired now that Daylight saving is here? So you're going to actually go and do somthing active because of that? Pig's ass, you'll still sit on your bums and watch TV afterwork because "it's toooo hot and blah blah". I'll still be up on the beach with my fridge and rod - fishing, not giving a bleep what the time is!

probably stick to subjects that inoke less passionate responses like Patrolv cruiser
Waecov Engal or anything regarding 12v power

We are delighted in the eastern states WA is going onto daylight saving.
3 hrs difference on the programming on satellite TV is to much. 2 hrs difference is great. Going to have a guaranteed 3 years of WA been in line.
Great to see WA showing such good consideration for eastern state TV satellite viewers.

I personally couldn't give a fig one way or the other but what I do object to is the absolute contempt with which this government and MP's generally have treated the WA voting public.

The three previous referendums have said "No" to Daylight Saving and rather than risk another negative vote, the autocrats in power take it upon themselves to sneak this through in this underhand manner.

More importantly neither party was voted in on the grounds of daylight saving and as such do not have the authority of their constituents to implement such change. Some will argue it's only a trial but of course that is a complete nonsense.

If we were really interested in daylight saving we would be putting the beginning of the day to good use and adding an hour in the morning when the weather/heat is friendlier. Then we could work later so that the population are mostly in a controlled environment and out of the sun during the hottest part of the day and able to finish work as the sun/heat diminishes.

As for the commercial arguments about being in line with the "Powerhouse" East, that is simply fatuous "CrxP" as have been dealing with the east for years without any problems. Most of our real trading partners now are in the northern asian markets and they share the same time zone.

Also as we are the financial engine room of the nation and if the migration from the east to the west in OZ continues, we should be insisting they to come into line with us, not the other way around.

There, feel better now.

You all may as well get used to it.....in years to come daylight saving will be a matter of fact if for no other reason than to make the most of daylight to minimise our ever-increasing energy consumption. Being a former NQ dweller (21 years) I can however understand the negativity up there with the heat protruding later (clock time) into the evening. But WA, at least the larger population centres, is another issue. Get over it and enjoy the daylight.....just think of all that extra gardening, painting etc etc the missus can get you to do now:-)

Im with Dave,

1. Politicians should never be allowed to choose the time that the rest of the Ausrttralian public run their lives by, especially when history has shown that WE do not want day light savings!!

2. If only all the lazy, slothlike, couch potoatoes would stop sleeping in and get up early they would have their extra hour of daylight and more, in the cool of the morning!!
3. I live in Perth and I spend an hour and over 25klm's every day getting myself to work. All year long, and throughout winter at 6am in the pitch black i am lookin gforward to the sumemr when I can ride in daylight in the mornings. But No, now I have to get up all year round when it is still Dark!! I make the most of the daylight hours i have right now i dont need some overwheight, overpaid suit to tell me when is the best time for me to have extra light!!

4. With 3 young kids I can see it now come bedtime the normal 8pm now will show 9pm and I can hear it now...."I cant sleep..i'ts too bright...it,s not night time...it's too hot.....etc etc by the tim ethey are in bed and asleep it will be 10pm befor emum and dad get there quality alone time and then bring bring its 0530am time to get up and start riding to work... IN THE DARK!!

YEAH THANKS ALOT WA POOLICKTICIANS!!

Here's a day light saving story with a twist to it.

My wife starts work a 6 am every day so she can knock off at 2.30 in the afternoon. She enjoys these start/finish times and is fiercely protective of them. The down side is we are up at 4.30 am so she has time to do the hair etc.....

When questioned about why she likes these hours her answer is that it gives her more time at the end of the day to do things and she has time to go to the shops before they shut etc..

However, she voted No for extended shopping hours and is firmly against day light saving. As hard as I try, I just can’t seem to make her see that she is in fact a walking endorsement for both topics.

I remain undecided.

What a great diversion for John dewhatsiname, one minute we're baying for his blood the next he's the hero of daylight saving, everone seems to have forgot this was the minister for police running around without a license !!!! and consorting more than once in shall we say "dubious manners " remember he's still a crook and dont be waylayed.....................

Two things annoy me on this issue.

1 It has largely been a newspaper driven campaign with newspaper polls showing west australians overwhelmingingly in favour.
Yet looking around it doesnt seem so popular,so why are the newspapers pushing for it. Who stands in the shadows?

2 We have already rejected daylight saving 3 times in the last 20 odd years,whats made it so popular this time and why not a proper referendum?

I dont really want it, but if a majority supported it,so be it.
In this case I do not believe there is a majority and I do not trust the polls carried out by the media.
I believe they have rigged their polling to get the results they want and then used that to influence politicians who think like sheep anyway.
I believe a small group o prominent businessman who have to deal with eastern states businesses and stock exchanges are behind it.

Call me a conspiratist if you wish .Time will tell;)

Well it takes the state of the education, police and health systems out of the spotlight doesn't it?

So the Pollies have spoken on behalf of the people and in 3 years the people (majority) will confirm the decision as being correct
Roll on 3 years
(PS I will wager a few beers at the ExplorOz gathering after the vote that the majority vote in support of daylight saving)
It amuses me that so many people can be so passionate about such a minor issue
Lets face it noone will die or be injured because of it

I for one am very happy about it - but it has more effect (+ve) for us in the north east than in the west of the state. While I agree that the extra hour of leasure could be had in the morning, a lot of the more active outdoor things I have been involved in aren't very apropriate before work, especially if it involves a beer or 3. Activities such as waterskiiing and windsurfing etc are much better after work, when you can relax and stop watching the clock and just play 'til dark, then pack up in the dark. When I was living on the east coast, things like cricket practice and eavening twighlight tennis etc were virtually impossible until the clocks were wound forward so everyone knocked off an hour earlier. I have also worked of a couple of properties in both Vic and NSW, neither of which worked to a clock, so it never worried them at all.

Each to their own I guess, but I'm wrapped

Phantom - i have not yet heard one good argument FOR it. Sure there are different professions that may find benefits, but not for the overwhelming majority.

Dark ages? We have very long daylight hours as it is - no dark ages.

Yes, i am tired and grumpy - been up since first light, a bit before five, and the thought of having to get up yet another hour earlier to get to work over the summer does not enthrall me.

LOL that was good for a laugh :)))))

Hey Phantom,

Don't worry about all the negatives mate. Some people are just born that way.

Good on you for stirring the pot:-)

It has to be hard for WA Business who would be something like 2 1/2 hours+ behind the eastern States if they didn't implement DST. [except Qld. of course but they are real "neanderthals" and will take some convincing:-)]

I think Qld. will eventually come to terms with the benefits daylight savings give and realize there are no real negatives, apart from the change of "27" clocks twice a year.

After all that, seeing I started it and no, I wasn't stirring the pot, I should finish it.
Firstly, I too am not enaptured with the lack of democracy shown in issues like this but from a personal point of view am happy with the outcome.
For me, it means I can go to work in the morning without sitting at home playing computer games cos I can't sleep in til I go to work. Then when I come home I can now do all those jobs like mowing the lawns, washing the cars, vacuuming, washing etc etc. This means that when the weekend comes I can actually have the week end off to do whatever I like including 4x4 activities. I can also after work now go fishing, swimming, walking in fact whatever the time allows instead of saying it will be dark soon, no time.
To me it is a bit like sex, scuba diving or four wheel driving.....it is hard to say you don't like it til you have tried it and can then make an informed decision.
Bear in mind, in 3 years if it does get knocked on the head, I certainly won't lose sleep over it.
Steve

Hmmmmmm Phantom, you have touched a sensitive nerve there....lol

Me? I am in forced retirement. I don't care about the time, whether it be dark or whether it be late daylight.

It doesn't seems to make much difference to me. I just go about my daily stuff.

Like the railway system of yesteryear, all the states of Oz will eventually come into line.

Eventually everyone will have forgotton about the issue when Daylight Saving comes around each year.

Cheers

What a lot of whingers. 4 chr sake be glad youve got ahead of the northerners at last!!!

Having lived in North QLD for 8 years, I can state this from first hand experience...

Anywhere North of Brisbane is regressive.

Can't cope with change.

Consider themselves QLDer's first and Australians second.

I've not been to WA, but it seems there are backward elements there as well.

The really funny thing is that Vic and Tas have more daylight in Summer, regardless of the clock. It's just a natural thing. And they still want more leisure hours at night.

Fair Dinkhum, Perth is about level with Sydney, it's hardly the Tropics. The bullchit arguments about the night heat are just that.

It's a case of parochial alliance, nothing more.

And it is not doing a damn thing for our National economy.

Reading this thread, more WA people are anti the decision than for it. Some of you, including those not even living in WA are telling us it is good for us - speak your opinion certainly, but do not tell us to take our medicine like a naughty child. We've lived it before, and voted it out soundly 3 times before. We do know what we are talking about.

No matter what subject, people will have differing opinions according to their different circumstances - but in a democracy, majority should rule. In this case the democratic process has been abandoned.

Yes i will have to live with it - but not get used to it - i will be even more tired and grumpy than i am today. I don't have little ones at home this time, but i will see my daughter even more stressed and tired trying to get her overtired little children to sleep in their room with the hot afternoon sun on it - even ducting the air con in does not alleviate that heat - and we are the lucky ones in the cooler south west of the state. Our power bills will rise. My son will continue harvesting into the night when the air is dry - we cannot start until later in the morning down on the south coast. My son and daughter in law will still get woken the same 'sun time' by their toddler, having been robbed of sleep.

I, like the majority of WA members on this thread do NOT welcome it - but i respect the right of you all to express your opinion.

Just like to let you all know. my name is RAY not JEFF

Ill stick to my waeco ;)

Gooday,
I pity West Australians for the way tey have been treated, but seems as though our Pumpkin Pete looks like rolling over too. Too much notice of minority groups by the media.
It's a pity the Politicians were not so passionate about "Citizen Initiated Referendums", then we might at least have some true "DEMOCRACY".
Like others I am past my use by date & not so affected but I hate it, & hate the idea of having to spend 4 weeks in NSW over Xmas.
Cheers Boroma 604.

What makes me laugh in this arguement is that anyone who travels from WA to the Eastern states for any reason has to put their clocks forwards - how long does it take for you to get used to the time difference - about a day and then you are in the swing of things.

Kids adjust to the new times, you still get up at the same time (however, in WA time it's two hours behind) and you get on with what ever you are doing wether it's for work or holidays. And you return to WA and you have to put you clocks back - again it takes a day to adjust but then you do.

It's going to be no different.

Karl

About time we put this baby to bed, but at what time? LOL

The sad downside to this all, is kids will be coming (walking and riding) home in the hottest time of the day after school. This may not mean much to some people but in the tropics, could mean 45 degrees heat as it would be the hottest time of the day. This would not be a problem if we did not have daylight savings, believe it or not, 1 hour later does make a big difference (1:30 vs 2:30 actual time)!