bloody drought

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 10:33
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Just looking out the window watching what is left of my drought stricken farm blow
ing towards the Pacific with a 70 kph wind behind it. Visibility is down to 50 m at
times. No bloody wonder some poor cocky tops himself every four days. Also
listening on the scanner while more poor bloody volunteer firefighters attempt to
control an horrific fire near Marulan, between Goulburn & Sydney. Brave men doing what Aussies do best, look after one another in adversity. Depressing?
You betcha!!! But too much of Oz still to be seen yet so will endure it ok. Dont really know why I am posting this, but feel better already, so humour me please.
Think I'll pull the blind down & go back to something easy, like trying to find my ideal diesel 4by wagon at a price I can tolerate. Thanks for listening...oldbaz.
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 11:47

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 11:47
Old Baz ,
That has touched me and my heart goes out to you . Anything we or I can do to help , apart from bringing on the rain ?
Willie .
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:07

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:07
Willie, old mate, while my intention was not to elicit sympathy as all farmers in NSW are so affected, I find your response in itself gratifying & thank you for it.
Bringin on the rain will be just fine too so keep workin on it...oldbaz.
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Reply By: Dave198 - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 11:53

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 11:53
G'day Oldbaz, I don't know where your farm is, but I live in Far West NSW, and I know there is more dust blowing east from here unfortunately.

But some one further west than us is watching it come this way too.

I guess we are a little better off in some ways because the general plantlife out here is the sort of stuff that can go for many months with bugger all water, whereas the flora in the east is accustomed to higher rainfall and has not got the drought tolerance needed at the moment.

Consequently, there is a lot more bare earth where the vegetation has dried off.

More dust.

Does create some spectacular willie willies though.
I saw 12 different ones at the same time from Mundi lookout at Silverton a while ago.

There is a good side to this drought though as far as I can see.
It is affecting so many of us Aussies that everybody is talking about it now.
The next thing is getting the decision makers to act on all their rhetoric.
But, in my eyes, if there was a drought that only affected 10% or 20% of Australia, it would be a case of (for most people) out of sight , out of mind.
Now that it is affecting almost all of us, maybe there will be something done about water allocations to both country and city folks alike.

Don't bother buying a new 4by at the monment either, it will be sandblasted back to bare metal before you have a chance to drive too far.

If you want to go for a drive down the Darling, dont waste your money on a 4by, you can just about drive along the riverbed in a Daewoo Matiz or similarat the moment.
Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 14:34

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 14:34
Oldbaz,

Like Dave I live in farrrr west NSW and what you are looking at is probably my front yard going past your window. It left here yesterday afternoon.

I am not on a farm but I know plenty who are and they are doing it tough. Really it hasn't rained out here this year. Went to Sydney couple of weeks back and when it rained I had to get the owners manual out to work out how to turn on the wipers.

Like you say there is still plenty of htis country to wee. If the drought and the winds keep up it should all come past your place in the next couple of years. Think of what you'll save on fuel.

Chin up at lest no one is throwing bombs at you.

Dave,

Just how far western NSW are you?

Duncs
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:13

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:13
Dave & Duncs, my location is not in the far west at all but around the Yass area,
but conditions are bad east or west. Your thoughts on saving fuel as I watch Oz blow past just doesnt seem to have the allure of sitting at Bell Gorge at sunset
with a Bundy in hand (sigh), But will be there next April all things being equal
regards..oldbaz
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Reply By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 12:03

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 12:03
We feel for you guys and all the drought stricken farmers out there. There is probably nothing we here can say here to help matters or to bring on the rain but somehow in some small way we hope it makes you feel better knowing that we feel for you.

I come off of a farm so any problems associated with farming thoughout Aus is of interest to me.

Keep your chins up people, on a farm there is always 'next seasong'!!!!!!!

Cheers
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:19

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:19
Dunworkin, thank you mate, please see my response higher up. Your thoughts do indeed mean a lot to the rural community in these times & we thank you sincerely for them...oldbaz.
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Reply By: Member - Rotord - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 12:05

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 12:05
Hello oldbaz

Anyone who can look depression in the face and go the other way is a champion in my book .

For those farmers who are so depressed that suicide seems an option , they need to know that their feelings of failure and worthlessness are wrong . Every farmer is highly trained at multitudes of skills including management , driving , welding , machining , fitting , machinery maintenance and safety , just to list a few . In fact their skills are in high demand in WA as ' trades assistants ' . Housewives are signing on as TA's , how much better to have the abilities of a farmer in the job ? If there are farmers out there who need a lift in their self esteem and a well paid break from the farm , some may benefit from a period of TA work in WA . The WA Sunday paper is the place to look .
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:33

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:33
Rotord, Unfortunately the suicide thing is rampant among farmers at this time.
I would have thought that the average cocky would wear enough tough sh*t in
his time to be immunised against such action. But the truth is that we bottle it up
& dont seek help. The isolation in many cases is also a factor. At a recent local forum on depression a 40 something farmer stood up & said after feeding his sheep yet again he went home & handed the keys to his gunsafe to his wife & asked her to get him some help. That bloke will survive, others may not.
But the lure of Bell Gorge again dismisses any such thoughts from this old noggin.
As the farmer who won 10mil in Lotto said when asked his plans..just keep farmin
till its all gone....oldbaz
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Reply By: Member - John L G - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 12:08

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 12:08
Old Baz

I suppose looking on the bright side of things, if you have good neighbours with good farming practices it simply means as the wind blows back and forth you get to cultivate each others property.

Perhaps a regional co-operative is the go with all the rpoceeds being divided up by the mob.

Hmmm....

Keep smiling..
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Reply By: jan&wellsy - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 15:35

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 15:35
Hey there oldbaz,

I have been inspired by your words. I know how hard it is to look depression in the face and go the other way,i have been battling it for a few years myself. As for the drought - well our thoughts are with you and all the other guys out there doing it though. Wish there was some way we could make a valuable contribution to helping solve the problems you guys are facing. As someone said recently - when the tsunami wipes thailand out we all donated millions to help those people but noone seems willing to organise something to help you blokes. Take care matey were all thinking of you
Jan and co.
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:41

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:41
jan & wellsy, luv ya blokes, keep on top of it mate & thank you kindly on behalf of
us cockies. May I be rude & suggest you dont call us "GUYS". Too Yankee for us.
Got to go fight a fire,must away...oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: jan&wellsy - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 19:10

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 19:10
sorry to offend oldbaz shall keep it in mind. Good luck with the fire.
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:56

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 16:56
I heard today that in the Western District (Vic) they are harvesting 1 bag of wheat to the acre, usually get 15. So all they are getting, is their seed back for next year.

We are lucky here in Gippsland, full dams & green grass & my cattle are fat ... for now!
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Reply By: Tia Maria - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 17:20

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 17:20
Old Baz,

I'm an old bloke but new member. If anyone wants to get the good oil on the real Australia then this forum is a good place to look. I've retired to Coffs Harbour, and after 4 years of less than average rain we are ahead of average this year. Makes me feel guilty, but you blokes (not guys) can take heart because hope springs eternal, tomorrow or next week or next year ... WILL be a bumper.
Love the one about the cocky who wins lottto.

My thoughts are with you, wish I could do more.

John L.
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Thursday, Nov 23, 2006 at 13:28

Thursday, Nov 23, 2006 at 13:28
Tia Maria, you are spot on re this forum & the generous spirit of those therein, you enjoy retirement & Coffs, lovely part of Oz it is. thank you for your thoughts..
oldbaz
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 17:26

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 17:26
Just visited the west of NSW to the Macquarie Marshes and The Darling rivers. It's enough to make you cry.
Hope it rains fellers and you get all toy want .
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

Cheers Dodg.

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Reply By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 17:37

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 17:37
Know how you feel mate . We got a bad case of the locust's at the moment . Watching the garden disappear as we speak and not much we can do .
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Reply By: Mobi Condo - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 18:19

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 18:19
Howdy okjbaz,
Keep your chin up mate - good on ya for looking outside of the situation - we spent 11 years in a cropping / grazing district and that showed us that whilst it is sooooo romantic to think life on the land is good, I would not swap to a farmers life for quids! Too much responsibility, too much of a gamble for us. 'bout time a few other Aussies gave the farmers the due respect deserved. Ever in Adelaide - give us a yell to see if we can get together for a cuppa!
Cheers Mobi
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Reply By: Hairy - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 21:20

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 21:20
Look on the bright side old mate,
If it keeps blowing and all your topsoil ends up in the same place you might own your own island in the pacific soon. Might be tricky proving its your dirt though.
Cheers
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Reply By: Parso - Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 21:59

Wednesday, Nov 22, 2006 at 21:59
Oldbaz
What can I say?
Here I am in suburban Melbourne worringing if my garden will survive. Obviously I have decide to let the thing go.
We in the 4Wd movement are very much aware of you plight and you must know that you have our support, whenever & however you want it.
I just wanted to send this in support.
Regards
Parso
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Thursday, Nov 23, 2006 at 13:34

Thursday, Nov 23, 2006 at 13:34
Parso, you are another of the generous of spirit,kind folk who inhabit this forum &
I thank you for taking the time to express your supprt, as I thank all who have done
so. Cheered me immensly. oldbaz.
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Reply By: D-Jack - Thursday, Nov 23, 2006 at 20:23

Thursday, Nov 23, 2006 at 20:23
Ditto for all of that from me too

Damien & family.
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Reply By: wafarmer - Thursday, Nov 23, 2006 at 20:51

Thursday, Nov 23, 2006 at 20:51
Yep know you feel there's nothing worse than watching the dirt moving like that I found it best to pull the curtains and try not to watch till it's over.

I can't run my farm anymore and had to leave, it was a bit hard watching other people(share farmer) working your farm but thats life.

Hang in mate I know what your going through we had droughts frost and even the bank had me on the ropes once and survived it all then got one out of left field that beat me, now I have to fish in my spare time(poor bugger aye he he )

To all the cocky's out there doing it tough I hope you get a few top ones in a row you sure as hell deserve it

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Reply By: Nick R - Thursday, Nov 23, 2006 at 21:29

Thursday, Nov 23, 2006 at 21:29
Oldbaz,
I quote you "Dont really know why I am posting this, but feel better already, so humour me please."

Let me offer a my thoughts on this, I think you are writing because you feel you have friends here and that you can share your experience with them. I'm also guessing that you talk to other farmers around you.
This is something which all other farmers would do well to do at this time. We seem to find some solice in talking to one another as we are all in this together

I know state farmer organizations are putting strategies in place trying to get farmers together and also making sure other support services are in place if us farmers need them. not sure who to call? NSW farmers assoc. has some good people, I know some in their dairy section. All other state organizations are doing stuff too.

It won't make it rain but it makes us feel better.
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