ever doubted the value of cargobarriers?

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Reply By: XpLoiT - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 11:21

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 11:21
wow shT!!!!
seems like an interesting road to be racing on though?? crazy :(

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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 11:25

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 11:25
I would say it was more caused by not securing this ;-) ==>



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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:06

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:06
Dunno mate..... looks like there were straps tieing the cargo in place there.... the yellow ones...... and I don't reckon the engine would have lept up at the barrier by itself.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:13

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:13
hehehe.....

I was always taught to tie the load down to also stop forward movement, though i generally forget to do this ;-)

I wonder if the concertina brackets deformed like they should? (can't quite tell from photos)

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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:22

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:22
A good mate lost his HiAce out near Canungra a few years ago.... cargo barrier did it's job for him, the next week I had one fitted to my "Misty Express" work van.... and after my SWMBO rolled the Nissan a few years back and the barrier saved her, I wouldn't ever NOT have one to be honest.

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 14:53

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 14:53
Yup was secured according to the dude, but how well is only known by him... in reality you wouldnt expect this to happen!
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:47

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 18:47
"in reality you wouldnt expect this to happen!"

Exactly!


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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:12

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:12
Still the barrier did its job.
I for one would not have been happy about that load landing in the front seat with me or my kids.
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:15

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:15
Interesting to see what the rear end of the 4by looks like....
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Follow Up By: Kiwi Kia - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:23

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:23
Or should that be the front end ? The cargo has moved forward so it was probably a sudden stop rather then a shunt from the rear.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 14:42

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 14:42
Yeah, I was wondering about that ..... if they'd been shunted up the rear end, you would've thought the load would've gone backwards....

maybe it was a head on or smakc up the *rse of the vehicle in front
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Reply By: Footloose - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:23

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 12:23
I wouldn't have a 4wd without a cargo barrier. They take up space, arent cheap and are inconvenient at times. But the above shows why I have it.
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 13:23

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 13:23
Whats the general concensus of mounting things on the cargo barrier.

F'rinstance I have HF radio, Fire extinguisher and Inverter mounted on the barrier- on my side of the barrier.
They are securely fastened- with stainless steel straps or large OD washers for mounting.
Anyone else got stuff mounted to their barriers???
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Follow Up By: Darian (SA) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 13:31

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 13:31
Yep - the main box of my Barrett 950 system is up on the cargo barrier (in a Barrett cradle)- to try and keep it high and dry should the Jack go for a swim at a crossing. My fire ex and inverter are elsewhere - but the barrier seems appropriate in my view (as long as they are well nailed on !
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Reply By: Gerhardp1 - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 15:47

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 15:47
As others have said, the fourby must have hit something pretty hard to have the load fly forward and break it's tie-down straps.

The thing missing is the inflated airbag over the steering wheel - the driver may well have avoided a smacked face or chest as well if it had the bag.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 15:52

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 15:52
It looks like a pre airbag Falcon panel van, so no air bags.
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 16:00

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 16:00
Duh - the stupid pills I took this morning haven't worn off yet :)

You're right, it's not a fourby, its an old bucket panel van.

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Reply By: Member No 1- Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 15:55

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 15:55
i have plenty of recomendations for barriers, but only one against....they are a real pain in the but when ya need a drink from the fridge
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:29

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:29
Blud Oath!!!!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 23:21

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 23:21
replace center console with one of them small 8 can Waeco's.. ;) problem solved.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:16

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:16
Hell Bruce,

I thought the Engine was supposed to be in the FRONT of the vehicle?
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:27

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 17:27
VL Commodore...nuf said
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 23:05

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 23:05
And Milfords will replace them if this happens. I think all they want is the photos to plug their product and you get a new barrier.

Can't argue with that.

And there's no way those pi$$y yellow straps were going to hold 100kg of engine at 60kmh.

Depending on what he hit and the rate of deformity 20G is not out of the question. Therefore the 100kg engine became 2 tonne travelling at 60kmh. What were the 150kg rated straps going to do but let go?

Footnote. The soft bit of dash above the glovebox is allowed to make contact with your head in an accident - as long as the impact doesn't exceed 80G for more than 5milliseconds. (ADR requirement)

That's enough to give you a headache.

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Reply By: Bilbo - Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 23:43

Monday, Dec 11, 2006 at 23:43
Reminds me of a story of when I was young truck mechanic back in the UK. I'd picked up a recon gearbox for an AEC tractor unit (semi prime mover) from AEC at St Helens. It was chocked and 'strapped' into the back of our Ford Transit works van.

These gearboxes weigh about 400 - 500 kgs - 'kin heavy!! They'd be bigger than yer average big 6 cylinder, 4wd diesel engine

An old lady dithered about on a zebra crossing on the way back. I slammed the anchors on. Gearbox came racing up the inside of the van ripped the drivers seat clean off it's mountings and slammed me into the steering wheel!!

I was stuck in there for 4 hours while they got a fire truck to get me out! I was bursting for a pee as well!

Bruised chest and battered ego. I felt like a right idiot and right in the rush hour too!!

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