Long range petrol tank.

Submitted: Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 16:18
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Hi all, forgive me if Im an ol' dinosaur, but Im considering attending the National gathering in SA. My problem is that the Patrol, in full touring trim, returns about 9-10 miles per gallon. With only its standard tank this means I have to take an extra jerry can of fuel just to nip down to the local shops. hehehehe!
Im currently averaging about 370 kms on a full tank.
Does anyone have or know of a long range tank sitting in the back yard somewhere [preferably in Perth] that I could beg, steal, borrow, or buy. Or perhaps a universal type unit which can be fixed in the rear.
One of the better known 4WD stores here reckoned they could supply a new 160lt unit but the cost was ridiculous, ie; I know guys who are serving time for a lesser crime.
1987 LWB MQ/MK P40 Patrol. Would appreciate any help you can offer.

Kindest regards...........Lionel.
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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 16:48

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 16:48
Aaahhh Lionel

By golly that is a heavy fuel consumption. My old P40 engine in the G60 used to return 5-6 miles to the gallon.

I have never been a fan of LR Tanks, relying on jerries to see me through wherever I go. Used to carry 6 jerries under a false floor in the back of the G60. My old LC FJ 55 had a 205lt fuel tank. I had to beef up the springs after some distance travelled...lol

These days I carry 12 jerries lying down in my bush trailer. Even then the ole diesel returns 20mpg regularly. Together with the tank in the truck I can travel 1200 miles with ease without visiting a fuel outlet.

If you are hell bent on a long range tank then why not try the wreckers or their hot line.

CYA at Warraweena

Cheers
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Follow Up By: macca172 - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 17:03

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 17:03
What is wrong with long range fuel tanks? As long as they are built sturdy, fitted correctly and the vehicles balance is not over affected, why not fit one? My Navara D40 comes standard with a 80ltr "plastic diesel tank" and its about to depart on a journey to the local tip and be replaced by a 150ltr long range tank. I rather in a rollover, have a long range tank fixed under my vehicle than have 20ltr jerry cans floating around my head.
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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 17:11

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 17:11
Gees Willem,
G60, FJ55
Did you get a telegram from the Queen on yer last birthday............LOL.

Only problem I have with a trailer is that its always up yer bum. Follows you everywhere, like having an inhouse stalker.........hehehe.

And heres the irony; me and the missus have been invited to that Al Gore movie " Inconvenient Truth" or something like that, about us stuffing the planet up, and
we're taking the Nissan.

Cheers mate..........Lionel
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 17:20

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 17:20
Macca

There is nothing wrong with long range tanks. Many vehicles have them.

I said I am not a fan of them. It dates back to before Lionel was a baby dinosaur.
Travelling bush in wet and muddy conditions with a gutful of fuel inside a long range tank made for difficult vehicle extractions. Had to unpack the 4by on many occasions. Mate with LR tank always had trouble shifting the beast.

The cost of fitting LR tanks has also been an issue to me. I have seen many travellers with extra aftermarket LR tanks with fuel troubles out bush.

I drive carefully so that I can minise the chance of a rollover. Anyway, all my spare fuel is in the trailer.

Cheers

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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:05

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:05
Might be easier to install a boat fuel tank, if it is only for the occasional use.
They might be easier to get 2nd hand. How sturdy they would be off road I am not sure.

Or maybe you can get a 50 or 60l tank from another car at the wreckers to mount between the chassis rails somewhere? Add a pump for transfer.

Depends how much work you want to do yourself to save some money.

I do have a long range replacement tank, but am concerned about the extra load on the standard mounting points (4 bolts), as well as putting "all my eggs in one basket".
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:06

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:06
PS - As Willlem said, 3 or 4 jerries might easier :o)
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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:28

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:28
Thanks Oldplodder, boat style tanks, who would have ever thought.
Thats the beauty of this forum, what is a problem to some the solution is so obvious to others.
A couple of 50ltr tanks behind the front seats and the old girl would never know they were there! neither would the Nissan.......hehehe.
Always seen jerry cans as a neccessary evil.

Once again......thanks mate

Lionel.
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Reply By: Stu-k - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:27

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:27
Ya sound like my oldman.....miles per gallon? Why do you guys do that when everything around you is metric, all that converting to tell people something that means nothing to them ?
But hey it seems to work for the 60+ crowd lol
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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:37

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:37
Sorry mate but ol' man time and tide waits for no one.
Bet yer that in 40 years time youll be talking to some youngster about MP3's Ipods, digital cameras, and LCD screens and he'll look at you and say something like listen yah old dinosaur, that shiyte means nothing to me........LOL.

Stu-k have a great weekend mate, and GO THE DOCKERS.

Cheers........Lionel
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 08:43

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 08:43
Lionel - remember when LSD was pounds, shillings & pence.
And you are not a dinosaur you are just PTD (pre-Toyota days). Just don't mention what you used to drive though :-))
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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:34

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:34
Hi Kiwi,
You mean like the SSWB series 1 LR or the Austin Gypsie.
Playing in real black bogs at the base of Mt Egmont, pushing snow at Ruapehu, climbing over huge fallen logs in the Ureweras and the carton of DB happily sliding around in the back. Ahhhhh....memories.

Cracked chassis', broken axles, cooked engines, jambed trannies, 650x16 crossplys, and suspensions so stiff and unforgiving you'd be looking for a river boulder to sit on just for a bit of relief. Oh! and the odd bottle of warm DB thats still in one piece. Ahhhhh.....memories.

MQ!!!! Funny how things dont change much....hehehe.

Cheers mate........Lionel.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:43

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:43
Arrrggghhhhh, I said DON'T mention what you used to drive!! The IIA LWB got me into more trouble then I care to remember - and kept me poor :-))
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 19:50

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 19:50
Hmm,
Youre only going to Warraweena - fill up with fuel at Beltana - Im sure you'll manage the next 32ks to the homestead.
Unless youre planning on some longer desert trips, you don't need it.

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:25

Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 22:25
Yeah but have noticed who is the organising committee?

They will be taking you on camel tracks that ain't been driven on in years ;-)

Cheers
Andrew.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:29

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:29
Yesssssssssssssssssssssss
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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:45

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:45
Oooooooooh !!!!!!!! Goody Yummy
Yer reckon I might be better off if I leave the Patrol at home and bring my D8 Cat instead..........which brings me back to my first question.

Anyone have a long range fuel tank for a D8 Cat that I could beg, steal............?

Cheers

Lionel.
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:47

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:47
OH CR%P there goes the paintwork on the car lol maybe i better get the brushbars installed ......... or just be camera bitch :).

Brian
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 10:34

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 10:34
Paintwork - what's that?
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Reply By: Member - Fourplayfull - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 15:20

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 15:20
G,Day Lionel ,
Yes , I use 5 steel jerries , turnbuckled & load binded midships where the rear seat used to rest . Best thing is the Tanami pump so you can fill up without removing the cans - works a treat!
Cheers John
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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 16:18

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 16:18
Hi John,
Whats a Tanami pump ?
Better not be a piece of garden hose because I always get a mouthful every time I do it that way......lol

Lionel.
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Reply By: Member - Fourplayfull - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 09:14

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 09:14
Lionel - Tanami pump is a low air pressure fuel transfer pump . Fits snuggly onto a steel jerry can neck with delivery hose placed into tank . Connect air comp. or pump to fitting on pump at jerry - takes 2-5 psi to operate . check this site - cheers John

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