The new Nokia next g phone
Submitted: Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 20:25
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Steve from Albany
I checked out the new Nokia 6120 phone today. I've been waiting for ages for Nokia to release its next g phone, but after seeing it I'm very disappointed, the reasons being-
1 The cradle connections at the bottom of the phone have been changed and it won't fit my old Nokia cradle.
2 There is no hands free kit available for the 6120 at present
3 And most disappointingly, Telstra are not recommending this phone for rural areas because it doesn't have the coverage. Instead they are recommending an LG( I forget the model ). I've got nothing against the LG, I was just wanting to get another Nokia so it would fit my old cradle.
Has anyone else seen or used these phones and what do you think about their coverage.
Steve
Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 20:28
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 20:28
I was told exactly the same at Telstra
shop this week. Go for the LG handset if you want better range from the handset and a physical external antenna connection.
I saw a post on Whirlpool that Nokia will be following up this release with 2 other handsets for NextG however details of features and release date are still sketchy.
Muddy
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Reply By: F4Phantom - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 20:55
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 20:55
I am not rural so have been using 3 for ages, the business plan costs me only 70 a month for a cap - for me that means unlimited. My nokia n73 has broadband net and a whole load of other crap i will never use. I have paid for tv and all the rest of the stuff 3g offers but seriously I dont have time to watch regular tv let alone on a phone, so although I appreciate the technical exercise I dont see a big need especially if you cant use it all the time. I also didnt get the gps phone because I think the screen is to small and no one could tell me about 4x4 tracks so I will have to do that another way. I find the best features of all the modern phones is a half decent camera attached with removable ram disks for huge storage, good for lots of photos and also music.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 21:02
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 21:02
You would think that the fone brand would not make a difference. I also have been waiting for the Next G Nokia... I might ring Nokia Aust, maybe TELSTRA has their own agenda. Michael
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Follow Up By: bhill- Sunday, Jul 29, 2007 at 20:13
Sunday, Jul 29, 2007 at 20:13
may not be too much longer re nokia next g michael perhaps november all i know cheers
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Reply By: Member - Uncle (NSW) - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 21:16
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 21:16
We were hesitating on going to NextG some months ago but finally did it. Our old CDMA was getting worse with coverage by the week. Anyway we got the LG TU 500 phone and the coverage seemed worse!! Wasnt happy, HOWEVER after some more weeks went by , our next g is slowly getting better now in our area we actually have a couple of bars showing now while inside the house.
We got a 7db broomstick off ebay a week ago and fitted that to the patrol, and what a difference! We tested it out along a back rd near Bowral NSW where Jodies father lives we had no service at all with either CDMA or the next g.
Plugged the antenna in and boom, straight up to 3 bars, so far no complaints, we'll see how it goes when we get out in the sticks a bit in a few weeks time.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 21:17
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 21:17
I have been waiting for the release of this phone.
Steve,
There IS a hands free option available for the 6120.
If you have a bluetooth enabled car kit, such as the Nokia CK-7W, then you can use that, until the cradle becomes available. It won't give you an external aerial connection, or charging cabability, but it will still be OK for the metro area.
The phone doesn't have the coverage???
Sounds like crap to me. Apart from the initial lack of an external aerial interface, the 6120 would be as good, or better, than any other brand of phone.
Now, where did you see it? Who's got them already?
I was supposed to be notified by Nokia via email when they were released.
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Follow Up By: Muddy doe (SA) - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 21:30
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 21:30
Available in all Telstra shops as of last Monday Sandman
I saw 3 sold during the 15 minutes that I was in the
shop.
Yes, Think the coverage issue may be to do with the size of the inbuilt antenna. This is a candybar profile phone as opposed to a flip phone. Seems that there is more room to have a better internal antenna in the top section of flip phones.
Anyway, the word from Telstra sales rep and I have also seen discussions about it on whirlpool (where all the phone nuts hang out) is that of all the NextG handsets currently on offer the LG has the best signal back to towers.
Absolutely no technical info to back this up! Just what I read around the internet including a couple of posts on EO here.
Cheers
Muddy
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 21:58
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 21:58
Thanks for that Muddy,
I'll have to swing by The Telstra
Shop and see what "deal" they can offer to replace my CDMA phone with the 6120.
In fact, I might just be able to squeeze a visit in tomorrow, before we leave for HK on Sunday Morning. Oh Boy! Oh Boy! Oh Boy!. (The trip that is)
Actually, this is my holiday concession to Bev, so that I can pick an Outback
camping Trip next time, and the time after, and the time after that.
Oh the things one's got to do to keep the peace:-))
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Follow Up By: Muddy doe (SA) - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 22:13
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 22:13
Oh, and the other thing is that Telstra are NOT offering subsidised handset plans for the 6120.
Nokia and Telstra have a pretty strange business relationship from what I hear. They both think they are GOD in their own arenas which is why it has taken so long to get any Nokia product on NextG.
Nokia are the biggest handset maker in the world and don't have time to be developing custom branded devices on non-standard network frequecies for some little outfit down in Australia that only sells piddling volumes of handsets compared with other world markets that are much easier to get on with and will take Nokia generic branded product.
Telstra are the pig-headed Australian market leader who have built a u-beaut new Mobile network using a different network frequency to everyone else in the world and INSIST on all handsets on this network having Telstra Logos and Telstra screen pictures and button behaviours that link to Bigpond and so on.
The result is that Telstra is only offering these handsets on a Mobile Repayment Option type plan. You can pay $589 outright or about $24 a month for 24 months and THEN you
sign up for a call plan on top of that.
All the other manufacturers phones are available on subsidised plans.
It could also be that because of the "Nokia reputation" for great phones, Telstra thinks that LOTS of people will want the Nokia handset so they make it more expensive.
Think we might wait a while.......
Good Luck
Muddy
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 22:20
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 22:20
Yeah,
Good thinking 99!
With that info, I'll wait until I can buy it outright from Nextmobile, or a similar Company. Then just pick the cheapest NextG non-contract plan.
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Follow Up By: Muddy doe (SA) - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 22:26
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 22:26
Yes, I did not mention that this same handset was also released on the 3 Network last week and can be bought outright for $399 I think. 3 will unlock the phone if you ask them and you can then put a Telstra NextG USIM in it. The only thing that is different is the 3 logo stays on the screen.
Much cheaper than $589 at Telstra. See threads on Whirlpool for more info.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: stocky - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 23:31
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 23:31
Nope - it truly does work like crap compared to others!
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 07:45
Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 07:45
If it's sold on the 3 Network then I doubt it will be the same phone.
It may have the same case, but there's no reason for 3 to sell it with NextG capability.
Nokia sell the same outer case with different insides for different regions.
Double-check before you buy it from 3 - if you swap to Telstra you may find it only works on GSM - not NextG.
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 22:21
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 22:21
I've had one for 4 days now after the last trip when the old CDMA was off the air more than on in areas where we had previously had coverage even with an external antenna and car kit.
As I wasn't on a contract was able to do a deal which will work out pretty
well down the track.
It works
well with the bluetooth handsfree and signal strength seems pretty good round the burbs, will report back when we get away up the hunter in a couple of weeks.
I too was hanging out for the non flip phone and so far it seems to work
well, net access (mainly for weather when
camping) is an added bonus.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 22:48
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 22:48
Steve
You didn't really think Nokia were going to make it that easy do you, Now you know how I felt when I replaced an old Kyocera with a newer model , new hands free kit too at $250 and 3 weeks after I get
mine Telstra puts out a new deal with Kyocera with a Hands free for only $50.00.
I keep trying to tell people they won't need external antennas but they just can't let go of the CDMA ideas. I have a Samsung Next G, never need an antenna, and for hands free ,
well it goes through the GPS to the $30.00 car radio No 2 , have a look in my Profile photo's
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 08:29
Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 08:29
Doug T,
I changed over to a Samsung 701 (love the big letters).
Is this the one you have and what sort of coverage in the bush do you get?
Thanks
Pedro
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce and Anne - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 08:46
Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 08:46
Hi Pedro, I have a Samsung as
well and we were out in the Central West of Qld a few weeks ago and the reception was pretty good 90% of the TV repeaters we came across had a Next G repeater as
well. Never seen that when I had the old CDMA.
Cheers Bruce.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 08:52
Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 08:52
Thanks for that Bruce.
Which towns in the central west?
Pedro
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 15:38
Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 15:38
Thanks Bruce, thats a pretty fair area you covered.
Will be interested to hear from Doug as he is gets all around the place.
Pedro
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Reply By: stocky - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 23:24
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 23:24
PLEASE DO NOT BUY THE NOKIA! ITS RF PERFORMANCE IS ***WOEFUL***
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
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Follow Up By: stocky - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 23:28
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 23:28
Further to my post - if you *must* have a Nokia - wait for next model as it has better RF performance.
Just friendly advice from someone on the *inside* :-)
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Reply By: alfclp - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 23:47
Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 23:47
For what it is worth I was recently able to make a call on the LG TU500 from
Eucla on the way back across the Nullabor.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 07:54
Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 07:54
There's now a NextG basestation in
Eucla giving coverage 40km either side (using an external aerial).
There now aren't too many coverage gaps between
Adelaide and Nullarbor.
But still a 600km gap in coverage between
Norseman and
Eucla.
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 01:09
Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 01:09
Steve
maybe nothing but have a read Site Link
www.kondinin.com.au
Richard
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Reply By: Steve from Albany - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 08:58
Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 08:58
Thanks for the input guys. It sounds like the LG might be the way to go. Like I said in my first post, I've got nothing against LG. I was just being a tight arse and wanted to be able to use my old Nokia cradle.
Regards
Steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NT) - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:20
Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:20
Steve
I work at the Ranger mine outside
Jabiru and the new Samsung A411 works really well out there. Like a few others I like the big numbers, it also has a lot of things on it that only my kids would use.
Regards Bob
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 15:23
Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 15:23
Hey Boo Boo come around for a
beer, this afternoon and help me put my front diff back together.
By the way the LG works fine for me, It has done so for about 4 months now.
Cheers Steve.
PS stuff the diff just come around for a
beer.
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 17:07
Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 17:07
Just back from a 7 week trip from
Sydney across the Nullarbour to
Albany up through
Perth to Broome including an excursion into Karagini down the Tanami, across the Plenty and home.
I ran a Nokia 6255 CDMA and an LG TU500 Next G both without external aerials. The CDMA got a signal earlier than the NextG on most occasions.
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