Jayco Finch V Dove V Eagle - advice needed
Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 16:38
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Ok i am looking for a Jayco Caravan - of the offroad variety
found a 2001 Finch for a decent price - but still not sure what would be best suited , so thats where you fourmites come in.. This is my first van purchase and have been using Tents to go camping ...
I have a Nissan patrol 4.2 turbo diesel - so no probs with towing so that can be taken out of the equasion ( weight ) - Now with my boy and my GF's extended family ( she has 3 kids ) that makes 6 of us in total ( 2 x 3 yrs old 1 x 6 1x 9 yrs )
we want to
camp on beaches and in the bush ( don't do any desert runs so there wont be hours of corrugated roads) will be mostly sealed road and maybe 1- 2 hours off road to get to destination . would the Finch be ok for us or would you suggest something else ?
thanks
Boc
Reply By: Anthony (Vic) - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 20:43
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 20:43
We have a 2003 Dove outback for 2 adults and 2
young girls (7 & 9). The kids share the double bed and we have the queen bd for us. The Dove is the right size for us. I think the next size up would suit you.
The Dove has a higher ball weight than the Eagle (need to
check as these things often change.) So the Eagle, being a foot longer than the Dove we a bit more living room, could also put a bit less weight on the rear of the 4wd.
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Follow Up By: Anthony (Vic) - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 20:45
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 20:45
replace "we" with "would have"
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Reply By: PradOz - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 21:13
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 21:13
Hi Boc,
Simply - get the biggest that you can afford. The Jayco are a simple unit, not complicated etc but built to do the job. Their wind up mechanism, winch etc are fantastic. I learnt a lot from my brother when he rebuit several different brand and model campers. I even rebuilt my first off road finch thanks to his guidance at times and my very detailed copy of a jayco camper service and repair manual. You are not paying for a custom built van so dont expect the quality of one. Remember you will put some bumps and bruises on it when you use it so it doesnt have to be absolutely perfect other than structurally. I have had no problems with
mine at all. My latest is a Swan and the layout and size etc is perfect for us - wife, me, 17 + 14 year old girls, and 10 year old boy. With the annexe there is plenty of room for all people and activities regardless of weather etc. Finch and Dove are way too small for families. I would only get an Eagle if storing it was a problem as the Swan is same layout with more storage etc inside. (Sorry to all those with Eagles - I am not knocking them they are real good too if the size is right for you)
I would not recommend buying new as you can find plenty of very good second hand swans, eagles etc on the market to save money for those personal touches you will make. You just need to give them a good going over and do your research. I travelled from
Sydney to
Bega to firstly look at
mine, and then back again the next week to buy it. It has been fantastic.
Interior colour is a personal choice, but one thing to think about is the lighter colours make them appear larger in size and obviously the darker colours make them look smaller.
What area do you live in and where do you plan going? You can always hire one to try them out which is a really good idea so you can
check out size and layouts. Let me know where you live - if you are local you are more than welcome to look at
mine for size and layout etc to see what works for you.
Jayco have been around for yonks, plenty of people to help out when you are travelling. Easy to work on and get spares if ever needed A good all round camper. If I can be of more help give me your contact details Cheers Mick
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 05:20
Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 05:20
Firstly , thanks to all that have given advice - It has been invaluable as i was going to be leaving a deposit on a finch today , but will not do that now based on your prompt and helpful replies!
I shall be looking more into the Eagle , Swan or even Flamingo now - they only thing that was a little concerning for me was the weight and how it would go on
stockton beach (
newcastle ) as the sand up there does get pretty soft , but would be entering from Anna bay end ( normally go in via levis lane when using tents )
As for locations i hope to use it,
Stockton beach -
Newnes (
lithgow ) Maybe
Vic high country next year - Wattagans ? - and North of
Bundaberg ( moorepark beach )
I have only ever towed a trailer on
the beach -- and the trailer i would estimate weighed about 450 KG with all camping gear . and this towed easily on
the beach - and that was a simple box trailer.
Have you guys had experience with towing these vans on
the beach in soft sand ???
I am looking for second hand ( around 15 K -17K) - and for the right van i will travel , after all if i have to drive 10 hours to go pick it up - i have something to sleep in that night before i return the following day !!
Boc
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Reply By: Member - Hughesy (NSW) - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 22:05
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 22:05
Hi Boc,
We bought a 2003 Dove only 2 months ago for our family (19month old and 6yo) and its suits us fine. All the comments above are very true. For you family size I wouldn't go any samller than the Eagle/Hawk with a full annex. Easy to set, up very comfy, and good enough to do most dirt roads and out of the way
places if driven with respect.
They hold their value heaps but I still wouldn't buy new, Too many barely used 2nd hands ones for a discount, to even consider new I reckon.
Good luck champ and ENJOY.
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Reply By: Newbiesb - Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 08:00
Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 08:00
Hi, i spoke with a friend today who's just returned from trip around
the block with a Jayco pop top (swan i think) and they are looking at selling it after only a year. They havd all sorts of problems with bits and peices loosening off after a short off road (not heavy off road) section of dirt. Their van was supposed to be off road but they ended up staying on black top. They believe you can only do very 'groomed' dirt roads with the Jayco.
It depends how much off road you want to do i suppose. We were looking at Jayco but after a few conversations with owners, it's off my list now.
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