Fuel Container- steel vs plastic??
Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:03
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brett patrol
Hi guys,
I have been searching through the archives finding information of jerry cans and still cant determine whether to go steel or plastic. As far as I can see, there is no major benefit of either type. I can buy steel jerry cans from the local anaconda store which claim to be built to Military standards for $40, but this seems cheap? I have had plastic in the past and they always seem to leak.
Any help would be good. thanks
Brett
Reply By: QLD Kev - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:17
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:17
Brett,
where are you located??
I have 7 steel jerries that have some slight surface rust but have only been used once that I am willing to give to a new home. I am in SW
Sydney if you are in the area and would like them.
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: brett patrol - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:30
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:30
Thanks for your offer Kev, but i am in
Melbourne. Much appreciated. were you happy with the steel containers?
Brett
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Follow Up By: QLD Kev - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:03
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:03
The steel ones are great but I have way too many. I have 13 steel ones as
well as 6 plastic fuel jerries and prefer the steel ones as IMO they don't balloon out as much in the heat.
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 13:09
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 13:09
where abouts in sw
Sydney are you and what do you ant for them ?
Boc
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Follow Up By: QLD Kev - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 13:18
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 13:18
Boc
Wattle Grove,
Price just a smile and a thank you
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: QLD Kev - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 13:19
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 13:19
I should add that the surface rust is external and NOT internal :))
Kev
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Follow Up By: Dunco (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 16:59
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 16:59
Qld Kev...
I could take one off your hands if you like. I also live in Wattle Grove. Email address is garyduncan@iinet.net.au
Gary
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Follow Up By: QLD Kev - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 17:37
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 17:37
Gary,
Email sent
Cheers Kev
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:19
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:19
I've got a couple of Rheem (Black) plastic 20 litre 'jerrys' that have been bounced all around Oz. Have been strapped down on their side on the roof rack and have had no prob. with no leaking- even when bloated...
I do use a piece of carpet under them on the 'rack.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:54
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:54
Same with me. Only downside to the Rheem is that the big fast flow diesel nozzles don't fit. Good seals, don't leak.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:49
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:49
Same same Signman. Our Rheems have served us
well,for both petrol and diesel. Not knocking metal jobs eh. Just too happy with plastic. Your choice.
Happy travels,
Jeff.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:38
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:38
Good point re high flow nozzles: a real pita.
C'mon Rheem, sort it!
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:55
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:55
Been using the black poly jerries for years - never had the slightest issue - durable, robust, one piece body, no paint, no rattles.
No contest for me.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (SA) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 13:35
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 13:35
Hi Brett,
I have owned and used both metal and plastic. I did get rid of the metal ones, the sealer that was used inside them was coming off, lucky I was using a good filter in the funnel. The are a few types of plastic available.
As long as they are stamped for fuel, you will have no problem at all with them and I would recommend the plastic.
Cheers
Stephen
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Reply By: KSV. - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 14:11
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 14:11
Plastic only. No rattles, no rust. I have few and they never betray me. Your experience with leaking more likely due to bad luck or dirt-cheap units.
Cheers
Serg.
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Reply By: PeterInSA - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 15:59
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 15:59
Brett,
Depends on your use, I changed from 5 steel to 5 plastic because I was wary of the internal coating of the steel jerry can coming off and getting into the tank, fuel filters/Injectors. Have found that
camping in the bush and putting the plastic containers on rocks does wear away the plastic. You end up bring a mat to put underneath the plastic jerry cans.
Also having plastic jerry cans in the back of a vehicle, if a piece of metal rubs against the container after a long trip you can also see the wear marks. I would not use plastic to carry petrol because of this, on hot days you can see the plastic container expand considerably and any wear/slight cuts could blow.
If you go plastic I would buy the container with a spout fitting and a second fitting for air release this should in theory give you a quicker fill. My plastic containers are the Willow brand (spout fitting only but incorporating air release) from super Cheap on special at $19.95.
Would I buy plastic again? No. I would buy new steel. $40 seems a fair price for new steel jerry cans.
I have kept my steel just in case.
Peter
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 16:06
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 16:06
It's no contest for me either.
Steel jerries win hands down.
The benefit with the steel jerries is in the beaut "accessories" you can get for them.
I possess a "Tanami pump" which uses low air pressure to transfer the contents of the jerries to the vehicle fuel tank while the jerries are still sitting it their racks on the trailer's A-frame.
I won't do without my Tanami Pump so no plastic jobbies for me.
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 16:34
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 16:34
I am with Sandman.
I carry 12 steel jerries lying flat on their side in under a false floor in my trailer and have had no issues with them. Fuel is transferred via a
home made Tanami Pump.
At one occasion I did have problems with the Lion Brand steel jerries where internal coating came loose and ended up blocking up the fuel filter on the petrol Datto. I returned them to the reseller and upgraded to Pro-Quip steel jerries. Good jerry-cans cost around the $50 mark these days.
I prefer jerry cans to aftermarket long range tanks as the latter eventually finds an air leak or an air lock and gives you grief when you need it least.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Smithy (VIC) - Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:11
Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:11
ok guys what is a Tanami Pump ?
i presume its for the transfer of fuel from jerry,s to tank ?
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Follow Up By: QLD Kev - Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:28
Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:28
Smithy,
Look Here :))
They are the best invention since sliced bread LOL
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Smithy (VIC) - Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 13:07
Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 13:07
Kev,
I like that.... thanks
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 13:24
Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 13:24
Smithy
If you are handy with a gas axe then go buy a jerrycan spout from Supercrap for around $10. Remove the flexible hose and solder a truck tubeless valvestem into the hole vacated by the hose. Remove the valve. Also solder a copper pipe next to it that reaches to the bottom of the steel jerrycan. Fit plastic hose to the copper pipe and you have a Tanami Pump which is activated by your air compressor. All up cost about $15 plus a six-pack for your mate if you are not handy!!! It takes about 1 minute to empty a jerry can.
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Follow Up By: Member - Smithy (VIC) - Friday, Nov 16, 2007 at 09:49
Friday, Nov 16, 2007 at 09:49
Willem,
thanks, good idea will have a go at it
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Reply By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 17:06
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 17:06
Brett and QLD Kev
I've used both for many years. The steel containers are far more robust, but the seals need to be looked after. certainly nothing wrong with the German invention (to this day).
Good quality plastic doesn't present any problems either, apart from expansion issues. On a hot day, I usually vent them
well away from a stopping point in the middle of the afternoon.
I'm probably more careful with plastic than I am with steel. The cans (as others have said) are placed on high density rubber and secured with ratchet straps in such a way that expansion isn't inhibited.
QLD Kev. I thought I was the only Dill who had a garage full of Jerry cans (up until recently). LOL
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: QLD Kev - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 17:48
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 17:48
Kim
They come in handy when you have room. I also have 8 water Jerries LOL
Plus the smaller 7L/3L one for the lawn mower and edger.
I must invest in an overhead tank when I move save having so many fuel jerries ha ha
Cheers Kev
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Reply By: Member - AJB (VIC) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 17:18
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 17:18
Black Rheems.
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Reply By: Louie the fly - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 17:57
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 17:57
I have an ex army metal can that my dad gave me. Its about 35 years old. I replaced the original cork seal a few years ago with a rubber type (wish I hadn't). Now it leaks a bit. Have a newish metal can that flakes paint off on the inside. H.O.S! Bought a plastic one for petrol. I stash it inside my boat when we go away. I like it coz it doesn't scratch the gelcoat or damage the upholstery, and it was cheap. The ex army one pours the best.
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Reply By: brett patrol - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 20:23
Wednesday, Nov 14, 2007 at 20:23
Thanks for all your replies folks. I have had a look on the Rheem/Haigh website and they seem like a very good fuel container. I think platic will suit me best.
All comments are much appreciated.
Brett
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 09:37
Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 09:37
Bit late - but I have both over the years and its plastic for me.
I now use supercheap units because they have no secondary air vent and have a larger inlet than the Rheem.
They can also hold up to almost 24lt but this is overfilling however I always fill them with 22lt .
They also weigh almost 2 kgs lighter than steel.
But most of all they are only ones amongst many that I have tested that have not leaked. (have not tested Rheem)
Robin Miller
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Reply By: Member - Smithy (VIC) - Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:08
Thursday, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:08
I used the same supercrap jerry’s myself and to my surprise no leakage
even after a 15,000k trip and 3,000k of that was out bush
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