Annoying Phone Calls and "Do Not Call" Register
Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 10:05
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PhilZD30Patrol
Hi
I registered on the "Do Not Call Register" about 12 months ago and the number of phone calls diminished significantly, down to zero for many months.
BUT in the last few days they have started up again !!
One caller told me I was not on the register and perhaps I needed to re-register.
Has anyone else had to re-register?
Cheers
Phil
Reply By: Gerhardp1 - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 10:27
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 10:27
Registration is supposed to last 3 years. But this is run by a Govt department, so nothing's certain.
My numbers are on the list - it's quite funny when you get a call from one of the marketers who don't bother to check the list - I ask them if they know they are liable for prosecution, and they hang up so fast it's funny.
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Reply By: fisho64 - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 10:45
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 10:45
as you probably know there are quite a few exempt from the list such as charities, companies you have dealt with before, political stuff, researchers you have participated with etc etc.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 11:33
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 11:33
The "do not call register" has only been open to registering since 3 May 2007......
Considering the register came into play 1 July 2007 and you will be listed for 3 years IIRC, then they are telling you b/s.
I've had two or three calls recently from companies ignoring the register. The trick is to take their focus off their prepared speech and ask them questions...lots of them. What's your name again, who do you work for, where are you calling from, what's the weather like in ______ at the moment, do you know Jim Dawes (fake name) who also works in _______, i hear his wife is having another baby, you must know him, is it a good company you work for, do they pay
well, how much, you could do so much better if you went to machete marketing (fake name), do you want their number, how about you give me your number and i'll get the boss to personally call to arrange a better paying job, etc
Oh, how i miss telemarketers ;-)
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 11:53
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 11:53
lol
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Follow Up By: JimDi - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:12
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:12
I am now on the do not call register and it is more than worth the effort to register. Hardly any calls get thru,just the odd one.
One that did get thru,some Telco mob offering savings on mobile calls,I pestered the life out of him. I insisted that the money he said I would be saving if I converted be paid to me in cash. The bloke was completely confused and handed me over to his supervisor who spoke perfect english. So I proceeded with him demanding that if I switched "they"would pay me cash bonuses. Guess wot? "he" hung up on me. How dare he, but I guess it was his phone call.
JimDi
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 14:15
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 14:15
Andrew, are you retired? I am and I find it a real good part of my day doing exactly as you do....
I had one yesterday told me he worked for Telstra and wanted to know if my phone was Telstra or Optus... I said I don't know, you work for Telstra you should be able to tell me.... anyway we engaged in sparkling repartee for 15 mins or so, I never found out exactly why he called me... But it did make my day, far more productive than sitting on the PC or watching endless political broadcasts on the TV.
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Follow Up By: vuduguru - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 14:25
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 14:25
Andrew and Mr Fawlty have too much time on their hands!...
I had a call from telstra the other day and was somewhat interested in the deal. After about 15 minutes, when the operator tried to close the deal, I asked how I might contact him after I had researched the competitions offerings,THE TELEMARKETER hung up on me!
Cracked me up!
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 14:40
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 14:40
Nowhere near retired.....:-)
I even had one bloke convinced that he needs medication as he cannot remember his name, even though he had his wallet and staff ID in front of him!
Yes, i have too much time on my hands....
Andrew
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Reply By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 11:59
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 11:59
Hi Phil,
Before the Govt DNC register launched in May this year, there was a voluntary register run by the direct marketing association. I registered on that some years ago, but it made no difference.
The current one has some teeth, and if I get a call, I take as much info as they are able to give me (some hang up as soon as I ask questions) and forward it to the DNC website.
A recent example was Lifestyle Dynamics, who were one of the worst offenders, and were recently taken to task by the Govt over defying the DNC register.
The Govt can only act if you forward the info to the DNC register.
Gerry
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:22
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:22
Do not call has helped but will not stop unqualified TM companies from doing random calling I suppose. There is a lack of ethics in that industry, riddled with scumbags and call at all costs mentality. Silent number is the only way to go..
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:31
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:31
A silent number is a waste of time (and money) these days with the advent of digital lists, autodialling etc.
I looked into this, and as i had a number inherited from someone else (it's the norm now when moving), it doesn't stop TM.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:33
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:33
I should add that it really only stops your number being listed in the whitepages, PDC etc.....you shouldn't have to pay for that privilage!
Andrew
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:45
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:45
Andrew, We got a Silent Number 2 years ago and have never had one TM call ever..! Digital has nothing to do with it, the number is not listed anywhere. So as far as I am concerned it works..!
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:48
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:48
Quite the contrary TF....if your number is on a "digital list" (CD lists, etc) already then a silent number will not do anything.
Silent numbers are not retrospective....it only stops your number from being place on future lists eg. whitepages.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:52
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:52
Yes realise that Andrew, our number fortunately was a "New Allocation"we were told and perhaps that is why we have had no calls. Off course SN will not stop random calling, that is a matter of Russian Roulette. So as far as our experiences are concerned SN has been
well worth it. Who knows what the future holds, here is a link with all the answers..
http://www.tio.com.au/FAQ/Privacy.htm
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Follow Up By: Love The Outback - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:54
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:54
Andrew,
I don't pay a cent for my unlisted number. I'm with Optus - Exetel and they have it for free, as a lots of other stuff....
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Follow Up By: Love The Outback - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:55
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:55
Andrew,
I don't pay a cent for my unlisted number. I'm with Optus - Exetel and they have it for free, as a lots of other stuff....
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:58
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:58
That would explain it then... you should be so lucky :-)
I did have a SN for several months as i didn't want our name etc listed in the phonebook as we were moving anyway(work rental apartment), and it didn't stop the numerous calls to the past number owner. :-(
I agree that it can be handy if you have a new allocation.....
Andrew
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:45
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:45
Yea but- the Do Not Call Register does NOT exclude charities and political marketing !!! So just leave the phone off the hook til Sunday. Coz those bloody pollies are gonna be flooding the phone lines - especially in those close areas....
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Follow Up By: equinox - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 15:04
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 15:04
I know what you mean. I'm on DNC and got a phone call from
John Howard himself last night. He wouldn't let me get a word in though. He just kept talking and talking.....
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Reply By: Member - Fred L (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 15:23
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 15:23
Interesting discussion and for what it is worth here are some of my comments.
As a market research company we are entitled to call anybody for research purposes. What happens is that some companies call on the premise that they are doing research eg we are researching what kind of roof ... and then go into a sales pitch. This is quite unethical and my advice would be to question them as to who they are - name etc and tell them you are going to report them.
The shame is it is just some
young person trying to make a buck and the guys in the backroom don't care.
Other callers call from overseas where there are no controls. Forget about the no call number because they start at 1 and just keep going. If there is a delay when you answer then you know - they use voip which results in a delay. Solution - slam - no put - the phone down.
Registering on the DNC is a good idea to stop telemarketing or at least minimise it. Phone numbers they are just circulated and we often contact people who have silent numbers. They are not impressed but we might be using a list 3 or 4 years old and they have only just picked up that number.
Remember, everytime you fill in a competition like those run frequently at shopping centres with a beaut (non 4X4) car as a prize, they ask for you phone number. Read the fine print which says that you authorise them to to contact you and to pass your number onto to others for the same reason.
Cheers
Fred
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Follow Up By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 19:30
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 19:30
Thanks Fred, you have answered some questions that I have never asked!! Cheers
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Reply By: PhilZD30Patrol - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 15:47
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 15:47
Hi everyone
Well I learnt something.
It looks like I'm in the voluntary "Do Not Call" register as it was definitely very early 2007 or maybe even late 2006,
well before the "proper" one.
I will now have to register again in the one with some legal teeth.
Thanks for your replies
Cheers
Phil
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Reply By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 17:35
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 17:35
Bugger the phone calls , don't get that many . What i'd like to know is how to stop the rubbish e-mail's ? We get 20 to 30 and some times more a day. Now , that is starting to get me pee'd off . Errol
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Reply By: Members-Neil & Margie-Cairns - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 21:00
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 21:00
Do what i did Phil ,, just keep insisting you don't want to buy sex over the phone from them ,, done this to an Asian girl one arvo ,, she eventually hung up on me ,, mark on the wall for Neil ,, was a bit of fun at their expence too ..
Neil ..
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Reply By: Brian (Montrose, Vic.) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 21:34
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 21:34
Try answering every phone call with : "Market research International , please hold while I transfer you to our New Dehli office"
Confuses the hell out of my old mum but telemarketers don't know what to do with you and hang up straight away.
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred L (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 09:32
Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 09:32
Great idea Brian but you are going to put me out of business. Remind me to tell the staff when this happens to say 'Hello Brina, How are you?"
cheers
Fred
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 01:09
Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 01:09
Don't have much of a problem with phone calls since placing ourselves on the DNC register.
But Telstra are now trying other avenues and other TC companies are doing similar. My wife has a mobile phone with Optus and for a while, was greeted with an SMS alert early on Saturday mornings for a few weeks until we presented ourselves at an Optus Retailer and threatened withdrawl of her account if they didn't cease the practise. She needed the phone near her due to business requirements.
I had been receiving SMS messages on both the GSM and NextG phones from Telstra. There was a 1800 number to ring to "opt out" of their SMS marketing, which I have done for both phones, but the fact that you had to physically do something to stop it, was bad enough.
What was even more annoying was the unsolicited manner in which the SMS's started appearing in the first place.
Bloody Mongrels!
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