Some mothers do have em.

I never criticised the vehicle, just the guy for taking that particular vehicle in to a place like that when it is clearly not designed to do that kind of off roading. Paul

Yes, spot on Don.

I wonder if he would have got the same ridicule if the 4WD had been a common Patrol:-))

Bill.

I'm not sure if we can question the capability of the beemer from the post - the issue was ploughing straight in (withou slowing down) Any capable Toyota or Nissan could be in the same trouble (eg there are many posts about bent fans and holed radiators from deep water and going too fast)

Question the capability of the driver ? - you bet

Don and Sandman

Have either of you been to Twin Falls?

Now I admit I have not been there for a number of years but it used to be a 4x4 track. Then Parks and Wildlife made some alterations to the tracks for easier access. As I have stated, the river crossing used to be 150mm deep at any given time when access was possible.

The general consensus is that this person should not have driven the track in an AWD vehicle. The fact that he got through the creek the first time is astounding. On the way back he plunged into the waters without using a blind. So now the car is dead. Hence the comments that having lots of money doesn't necessasirly give you more or any, common sense.

Cheers

No Willem i haven't

I have been to Kakadu 2 times but both times the track (and a lot of others in the park) was closed as it was to soon after the wet season

The point i am making is not whether the BMW should have been there but whether we are making a judgement on the skill & ability of the driver because he was driving a BMW instead of a more traditional 4wd

Also i am not biased towards the BMW or AWD vehicles as i have worked for Toyota dealers for the past 26 years & drive a GU Patrol

Regards Don

What an idiot!
We were at Twin & Jim Jim the day after it opened this year. Jim Jim was still flowing for a change so that was great!
Must admit that i forgot to put the troopy in 4x4,still drove through with no prob's.
Cheers Lyndon

No I saw the car on a tilt tray this morning and asked Greg the camp manager what happened.

Cheers Steve.

Actually, now I think about it, we were there about 4 years ago, and the water was about 500mm deep, (Patrol got thru effortlessly of course, but then so did the Suzuki in front of us!) but there was a tour operator in a Troopy stranded nearby with a hydraulicked motor. Not happy. Seemed strange given the type of vehicle, so guess he might have tried the spectacular splash method for the benefit of his passengers.
Gerry

Donk

What these guys, no way??????


Cheers

How true! Have seen some "heroic" pictures on this forum of Patrols and Cruisers spraying great plumes of water as they make a crossing. Gives us all a bad name. Still, I guess it all evens out when they have premature failure of some component where the water that got forced in does its job.
Just as money (and Beemers) aren't necessarily indicants of class, Patrols and Cruisers aren't necessarily indicants of common sense.
IMHO.

Cheers, John.

"Just as money (and Beemers) aren't necessarily indicants of class, Patrols and Cruisers aren't necessarily indicants of common sense."
Well said.

Cheers

Phill

DIO,

It is bl00dy too grumpy, but unfortunately I am afraid that you not far away from truth. Even if they do it in “softer” manner and it will require to be a member of official 4WD club to make a trip (this what I believe luckily to happens with majority of “desirable” tracks in 10-20 years time), it still killing spirit of freedom.

Serg.

It's not a matter of time, it's happening right now. Many Management Vehicles Only tracks are being opened to 4x4 association member clubs & accredited tour opperators. With the damage being done to tracks & inexperienced people getting themselves into difficulty it's a simple way for Land Managers to have some control on access.
Cheers Craig..............

And it's being supported by some posters to this website too. Perhaps they believe they'll be immune from restrictions... they're wrong.

Mike Harding

You are sooooo out of date with technology....LOL BMW's installed with bluetooth runs through their radio and/or navigation system (with i-drive etc) with full voice recognition possible. Talking to the car is a reality now. :-) Hook the ipod into the special pocket, slide the mobile phone into the specially designed armrest, and the vehicle is armed and ready. LOL

The peace of mind of BMW roadside assistance (included for 3 years like warranty) probably has some bearing on where these vehicles may tend to go.....handy if one has phone reception.

So when are the Troopies coming out with all this new-fangled gadgetry? sheez

Andrew
(all tongue in cheek)

How could you use "Troopies" and "new-fangled gadgetry" in the same sentence ??

I would settle for at least (11 seater) "troopie" and "comfortable rear seating" ...LOL

A lack of electronics sure does have its benefits in certain situations. :-)

Andrew