Hi Tech Discovery.

Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 14:32
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Saw one in Blackall with a battery problem owner waited 3days for battery .Needed to be able to take 18volts to run all the computer,to hi tech.


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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 14:47

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 14:47
Really?

Nothing easily found about this (18v) on the net.hmmmm

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Bat30 - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 16:59

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 16:59
I was surprised but that what the owner told me.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 18:50

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 18:50
Was the owner a blonde with big boobs ???????.

If so, that explains it all !!!!!!!!!

Otherwise someone is having a lend of you.

Disco.

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 21:27

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 21:27
If it was a laptop that could be correct as most of then run around that.
However you just buy a Projecta converter which will give up to 21 volts from a 12volt source. A 6 amp one is best
About $50 at Jaycar
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Follow Up By: Bat30 - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 21:48

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 21:48
May be the owner was that hi tech he did not know.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 15:19

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 15:19
A while back,new Discoveries were equipped with a free DVD player in their sales pitch... Gives you something to do while waiting for service when it breaks down!! LOL!! Michael
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Follow Up By: Bat30 - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 17:00

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 17:00
You could be right.
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Reply By: Baldrick - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 15:51

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 15:51
18V sounds a bit unlikely.

Do you think that the 200 series would be any different. Nearly all vehicles are high tech these days.
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Reply By: Vivid Adventures - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 17:06

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 17:06
Yeah - you'd be waiting a god-awful longer time than 3 days for an 18V car battery... 12V or 24V but not 18.

Even in Blackall you can get batteries for Discos - 12V though.
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Reply By: Stu & "Bob" - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 17:32

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 17:32
WOW!!!

18 volts from a 12 volt battery??? That's something pretty special

Or am I missing something?


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Reply By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 17:36

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 17:36
18V needed to run all the electronics?
sounds like another urban myth in the making...
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 18:54

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 18:54
This doesn't make sense to me.

Perhaps, the computer needed 18 volts to run, which can be achieved with a 12 volt to 18 volt adaptor such as the kerio?

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Reply By: feral - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:06

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:06
Ok...he's most likely half right.


Although the 18 volts is a bit high there is a possibility that they did not have the right battery in Blackall.

The Discovery's since 1999 have been running a calcium acid battery. These batteries are capable of being charged at a higher rate which I believe is up to 16 volts. The alternators are designed to charge that high.

Now the problem is that if you use a normal lead acid battery it will boil the battery very quickly. Normal lead acid batteries are only meant to be charged at 14.5 volts max or thereabouts. Acid splattered across the engine bay does a terrific amount of damage.

3 days to get it to Blackall, sounds about right. It's only 830 k's as the crow flies from Brisbane but if there was a calcium battery in stock and it most likely came from Sydney, by the time he found out, ordered it, put it on a truck the job was done.

Cheers.





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Follow Up By: Vivid Adventures - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:34

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:34
All alternators sold in Australia, from what I have been told, post-1998 are set to charge at the higher voltages - 14.3-14.5 depending on manufacturers.

This won't boil normal lead-acid batteries but it will provide a high enough voltage to charge Calcium batteries. The Disco was apparently sold with one. Great, but the thing is still going to work with a normal lead-acid.

As small as Blackall is, I would be fairly sure calcium batteries would be carried by someone in town. Perhaps the place he took the disco to said you ought to have a calcium battery, and not having one in stock, they just got it from their normal supplier and thus the (unnecessary) wait. He could likely have walked down the street to Autopro and got one (There's an autopro in the main street).
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Follow Up By: Bat30 - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 21:46

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 21:46
Thanks for the support that what he told me.,
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Follow Up By: Redback - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 11:52

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 11:52
I have a 2001 Disco, i put a lead acid deep cycle battery in mine as a auxillary and i boiled it a couple of times before i realised my mistake, i then purchased an AGM battery and no more boiling.

You can't use a lead acid battery in the TD5 or TDV6 Discos, it has to be a Calcium as the starting, or, GEL, AGM, Calcium for the auxillery.

Trust me i have the damage to prove it :-(

Besides all that, how do know what was or was not in stock at the outlets in Blackall??

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Redback - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 11:52

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 11:52
I have a 2001 Disco, i put a lead acid deep cycle battery in mine as a auxillary and i boiled it a couple of times before i realised my mistake, i then purchased an AGM battery and no more boiling.

You can't use a lead acid battery in the TD5 or TDV6 Discos, it has to be a Calcium as the starting, or, GEL, AGM, Calcium for the auxillery.

Trust me i have the damage to prove it :-(

Besides all that, how do know what was or was not in stock at the outlets in Blackall??

Baz.
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Reply By: Russ n Sue - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 13:17

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 13:17
I own a Disco 3 and I work at a Land Rover dealership. I can categorically state that this post is BS.

Discovery II and III vehicles do use lead calcium batteries, but the final charge voltage is little different from any other 12V battery. These batteries do not charge at a significantly higher voltage than any other lead acid battery either.

I have a Lead-acid Gel battery in parallel with my Lead-Calcium battery at all times while the vehicle is in motion and two years down the track it still holding a charge beautifully.

If push came to shove, you could get by with a well charged 12V lead-acid battery to get yourself out of trouble if you needed to.

As land Rover dealers, we are not supposed to let a Disco out of our workshop if the battery voltage is below 12.7 Volts at rest. That's about as tricky as it gets.

If a Disco has had a flat battery at some stage, the computers may log some spurious codes and some instrument panel indications that should not be there might come up, but I don't know of a single vehicle that has not been able to proceed after the vehicle has been started and the battery reaches a reasonable state of charge - like most modern vehicles.

However, having said all of this, the world is indeed flat and the sun revolves around the earth and there is no need to use electronics to improve engine performance, vehicle ride and stability, brake control and the like. We should all go out and buy a Toyota HJ45 and be done with it.

Cheers,

Russ.
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