O/T Rifle Scopes
Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 16:45
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Kroozer
G'Day all, am after some information on how to find the right scope for my rifle. At current i have a Tasco Pronghorn but i am unsure of the magnification and stuff as i dont have it with me at current. I want to buy a new one as i dont really believe that one is very good, as it come free with the rifle. Rifle is a Marlin .22 Magnum and will only be used to hunt very small game at distances of under 80m. Can anyone tell which magnifications are the better ones, i see on Ebay there is alot of very cheap scopes but they are all in Hong kong. Really just want something with good magnification and can take a few knocks. Thanks, i would ask my local dealer but he is a rip off and i would rather be given advice from Exploroz users who know what there talking about.
Thanks in advance
Reply By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 17:24
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 17:24
tasco is a reasonable scope for a 22
for a 22 magnum you may need a max of say 6 power
best to keep to the
well known brand names
tasco is one and are good value for money
if you want, get a leupold.... may seem expensive but when you compare them against the likes of schmidt bender and swarovski they are cheap, but still more expensive than tasco but with much better quality optics.
I use bushnell, tasco, lightforce and leuplod on different guns
best would be lightforce, leupold 6x25x40 (for air rifle) and then would come bushnell and tasco ...the latter two a toss up on which is best
Good optical glass reduces eye fatigue enhances light transmission and gives much better image quality from centre to outer edge of glass...try with some cheap scopes and compare...on a cheap scope the center may look clear and sharp but the edges will be fuzzy, ....this also goes for binoculures
Clarity and brightness is what you certainly get with the schmitd benders/swarovoski etc etc...then comes leupold
Generally a higher the price should get you a better scope...but beware, there is some higher priced crap outhere...
hope this helps
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 18:43
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 18:43
Holy chit Nudie,
How many guns do you have???
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Follow Up By: Kroozer - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:17
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:17
Excellent thankyou, that really is the advice and experience i was after. You can only get that type of advice from people who know and buy the products, not from people trying to make a quid. Excellent i will follow that advice and do some googling on the leupold brand. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 07:48
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 07:48
just a few...
3 or more is few? isnt it?
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Reply By: Member - Keith C (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 18:01
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 18:01
G/day Kroozer.There`s nothing wrong withTasco scopes, good midrange units cost wise.If your distance vision is ok then 4x should be ok out to 150m,otherwise you can consider a variable magnification,say 3/9x40,then you wind it back for close work and wind it up for distance.4x is usually enough for.22 cal and .22 magnum though.the .22mag is a very underrated round,my bro and I take a lot of bunnies out to 150m on his farm at
Woodstock,have taken goats with it as
well.
Happy hunting,go softly,tread lightly
Keith C
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Follow Up By: Kroozer - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:14
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:14
Yeah cheers, .22 magnum is all i need for now and has been a very good rifle so far. Capable of very accurate shots with open sights as its nice and light. Stainless stee barrel with synthetic stock, carry it all day without feeling heavy. As for its power, have dropped a Brahman heifer from around 50m with it, head shot it was a clean kill and none of us could believe it. It needed to be put down and it was the station owners decision, but it was too far to go back and get a larger rifle so we had to make do with what we had. In the end it worked out perfect.
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 18:03
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 18:03
Yep, Id go for a Tasco 6x40.And I would stay away from cheap, unbranded scopes.
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Reply By: trouper - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 18:47
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 18:47
G'day
Just bought a 223 Weatherby and had a Barska Hunter 3-9x40(love the ability to adjust the magnification) scope fitted very happy with it. I also have a 22mag Sterling with a Nikko scope attached it's a bit old and nowhere near as good as the Barska...cost about $140.
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Reply By: Featherfoot - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:41
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:41
G,day Kroozer,
3-9x40 scope is a good choice for 22 mag. Try "The Optical Zone" in USA for a good price on scopes. Bushnell are quite a good brand and not overly expensive. My local gun
shop wanted $795 for a scope that I got fro TOZ for $556 to my front door.
Hope this helps
Gary
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Follow Up By: Kroozer - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:49
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:49
Yeah, just had look at scope and it is a Tasco Pronghorn 3-9x40 so i guess i will just wait till i take it out for a shot and see what i think.
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Follow Up By: stans truck - Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 14:59
Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 14:59
Yea go the optical zone, i have bought scopes for all my rifles bruno .22 tika.222 remington 308. steyer 30/06 and a air rifle there verry good in prices and will help you with your choice if you need advise, wont buy here in
Adelaide too much $$$$ REGARDS sTAN
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Reply By: Kim and Damn Dog - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:44
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:44
Kroozer
Theres nothing wrong with a Tasco over that distance. Sight it in at a gun club.
I prefer an open site at that distance unless your intending to shoot March Flys. LOL
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: Kroozer - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:53
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 19:53
Ha ha nah getting it ready for the mozzies mate. March flys are easy targets. LOL. And yes i agrre with you with open sights, i have hardly ever shot through a scope, never one that has been sighted in anyway.
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Reply By: Krakka - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 20:26
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 20:26
Kroozer
If you have never had a scope sighted in properly you are missing out. You would NEVER go back to open sights. Not the ones fitted to a 22mag anyway. The key is to have the rifle and scope properly zeroed. If you are serious I would just buy a 6X scope, probably Leupold, excellent value for money. Bunnies, foxes goats. Wouldn't worry about variable power scope. I have fixed power on all my rifles except for one.
Cheers Krakka
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Reply By: Member - Rob S (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 20:28
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 20:28
Hi Kroozer i had a 6x40 niko stirling scope on my old magnum for
years until i went out hunting in the rain.
On my Hornet i have a 3/9x40 variable tasco world class it is over
24 years old and has seen a lot of use and is as good as the day i got it.
A 6x40 scope is what i would put on a magnum it is surprising how far you can stretch the distance on a magnum with a good scope and more important a good rest.
If you dont want to spend the earth go for a Tasco or Niko but try and get ones made in Japan as the cheaper versions are now made in china ,but they may be ok as i have not tested or used one.
After firing thousands of rounds through my old magnum i found
Winchester ammo H/P the most consistent.
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Follow Up By: Shane (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 08:46
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 08:46
The "World Class" are made in Japan ! Had a 3 - 9x40 Tasco World Class on a .308 & sent it back to them. Too much variation between the point of impact on different magnications. They admitted it was faulty & offered to exchange it, but I took a 6x40 instead. If you want a decent variable you have to go for quality scopes not the rubbish. I personally don't think a .22 Magnum warrants a variable. I shoot porkers on a regular basis !
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 15:21
Friday, Aug 29, 2008 at 15:21
"I shoot porkers on a regular basis ! "
That's illegal in certain areas of
Sydney :)))
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Reply By: Splits - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 22:52
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 22:52
Who needs scopes when you are out with your 4b? These guys seem to have the right idea.
Note the long range tanks.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 23:58
Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 23:58
It's a mobile bomb
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 07:43
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 07:43
just what one needs for shooting goats..hahaha
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Reply By: Exploder - Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 00:29
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 00:29
Mate’s old man, shoots accurately out too 900 yards using a Tasco Scope mounted to a 308 and when I say accurately, I mean
places rounds inside of 5mm of each other> So they can’t be too bad. Hell I’d be lucky to hit a
barn door at 900yards LMAO.
I only ever shoot with a scope if I’m having a crack with my mates 6.5*55 (Tasco aswell), Both my rifles are iron sites and about the longest shot I go for is 100-120 metres with a .32cal Winchester leaver action.
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:21
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:21
So long as it's got a feral cat in the cross-hairs...
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Reply By: Steve63 - Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 13:24
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 13:24
A lot of the mid priced scopes are underated. I use a Bushnel on a .22 Sako for
seat and post target at 100 yards and in calm conditions I expect a bull (about the size of a 20c piece) 7 out 10 times with the others in a 2 inch circle ie 9's. The trick is to get one that has decent adjustments and sight it in at a range. At any distance with a .22 or .22 magnum choise of ammunition can be very important. By changing ammunition I can change a 2 inch spread to a 12 inch spread at 100 yards. No scope on the planet will help you then. I suspect your Tasco is likely to be adequate at 80m.
Most
well known brands are ok. Often the trick is to pick the right scope out of the range rather than a brand. The more expensive, bigger objecticve lens etc come in to there own when light conditions are low and 2mm at 100m matters. A variable magnification scope can be a good choise if you are not sure what magnification to use. A lot of people use 4x to hunt. The higher the mag the harder it is to find your target in a hurry and the smaller the field of view ie what is near by. Try a 36x and you will see why.
If you really want a new scope go ahead, everyone needs a new toy. I would take your set up to a range with every different type of ammo you can find and shoot a group of 5 at 80 - 100m several times with each type of ammo. It is likely to be your biggest problem. I must admit I have never found a .22 magnum that was particularly accurate at 100 yards. That doesn't mean that they are not out there, just I have never used one or seen one used. If I wanted deadly accuracy I would probably use a .222. A lot more expensive though.
Steve
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Reply By: Moose - Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 14:21
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 14:21
G'day Kroozer
Obviously lots of gun owners on this site but sometimes questions on this subject bring out the anti nutters. You were lucky.
You may want to
check out the Australian Hunting Net site - www.australianhunting.net. Excellent place to get info. And no-one on there who believes guns are evil.
Cheers from the Moose
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 15:31
Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 at 15:31
Thanks for the info Moose. Just registered and it seems that this site does upset my work computer either.
Kind regards
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Reply By: Mick15 - Sunday, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:28
Sunday, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:28
Personally i use leupold, they're pretty good for the price and have a lifetime warranty, no receipts required.
On my .22lr i have a 3-9x40 100th anniversary, the magnification is good for sparrows, bunnies etc.
A decent fixed 6x40 would also do fine.
Another thing i haven't seen mentioned is that if you are shooting under 80 meters you may want to look for a rimfire scope or something with an adjustable objective, the reason behind this is that most scopes (without AO) are set to be parallax free at somewhere between 100-150 metres, looking at a target at 30-40 meters in one of these scopes you will find that as you move your eye from side to side the target will shift in relation to the crosshair, its more noticeable at high magnifications and may not matter to you (i deal with it - its noticeable but would only put the bullet off target on my setup a maximum of about 6mm - and that'd be moving my eye from one side to the other for each shot)
For more info google parallax
Ebay can have some good bargains, i picked up a leupold vx-111 4.5-14x50 LR varmint for about 750 new delivered and they retail here for around the 1300 mark!
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