Old bushman lost in time
Submitted: Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 19:59
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Kim and Damn Dog
I’m trying to find some history on Sam Croker, apart from that mentioned in ‘Packhorse &
Waterhole’ (which covers the life of Nat Buchanan).
Apart from fleeting references, this drover appears to be lost in time with no record of his life that I can find.
Anyone able to help?
By the way, Merry Christmas to you all and a happy New Year
Regards
Kim
Reply By: dedabato (SA) - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 20:27
Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 20:27
Kim,
Not able to help on your quest to find out where about of those fellows but thanking you for X-Mas and New Year wishes
Same to you mate and the rest of EO participants
Steve
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Reply By: RV Powerstream P/L - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 20:38
Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 20:38
Kim
Croker is a rare name but what area and timeframe are you looking at.
For example there are 12 Death recorded of a samuel Croker in NSW between 1818 and 1970 and in the following areas Port Stephens
Taree Sydney Boorawa
Goulburn Warialda and
Wollongong.
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Ian
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 21:07
Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 21:07
1896 ...mentioned in a Google article ?
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Follow Up By: Kim and Damn Dog - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 21:20
Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 21:20
Gidday Ian
Thanks for that. Sam Croker accompanied Nat Buchanan from Rocklands Station, and opened up a route to the telegraph Line in 1877. In 1886 Sam also joined with Nat to establish the notorious Murranji stock route.
After that, there is a complete blank.
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: RV Powerstream P/L - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 22:21
Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 22:21
Kim
His name was Samuel "Greenhide"Croker and Croker Street Catherine was named after him .
That indicates to me that is where you should be looking.
Street names booklet
www.
katherine.nt.gov.au/content/download/362/2187/file/
katherine%20names.pdf-
Buchanan finished up in
Walcha NSW and did not take up land at Barkly Tableland.
Maybe Croker did and there is reference to a Croker Island somewhere up there also.
Ian
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Reply By: Pat Malone - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 20:41
Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 20:41
good to see you back
paddy
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Reply By: darrell.QLD - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 21:40
Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 21:40
ABC radio last night....talkback..TREVOR CHAPPEL ....
There is a book ...about that man........
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Reply By: Kim and Damn Dog - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 22:13
Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 22:13
To all the people who have welcomed me back via e-mail.
I’m touched by that, and thank you.
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 22:46
Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 22:46
Ok ok so welcome back, Kim. We've all missed you. Pity about your mate up in the Alice. LOL
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:54
Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:54
Sorry Footy ..... that was the old approach....
What I really meant was
MODERATOR!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:55
Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:55
Hairy, be careful what ya wish for LOL
And be careful with those keys, mate. They have been the cause of many a moderation :))))
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:58
Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:58
Touchy touchy. You know not to drink and type :)))
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 20:02
Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 20:02
Don't get all teary on us you old bastard :-)
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Reply By: Member - vivien C (VIC) - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 22:49
Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 22:49
Kim,
Ernestine
Hill in her book "TheTerritory" mentions Sam Croker several times.
There are a couple of entries concerning Nat Buchanan but one from the time he was on Auvergne Station on the Baines River.
"Sam Croker was manager now, "Greenhide Sam", with a brave heart and a bitter tongue. When the years work with the cattle was over, Greenhide was in at the
homestead with his head stockman, Jock McPhee, and Ah Wah the Chinaman
cook. A half-caste rode in, looking for a job. He was Charlie Flanagan, a psychological problem in half-castes, a black white man, with a black skin and a white mind. Flanagan was a fine athlete, a wonderful jockey, a good worker and honest as the day. He had four or five good horses. Greenhide gave him a job.
The wet came down. The station blacks sang thankful corroborees while the men in the hut played cribbage, a rifle on the table every night in case of a wild blacks raid. Flanagan was a poor player but he liked gambling with white men. It amused Greenhide to whip the boy with gibes at his dark blood. The half caste grew vicious and sullen.
In a humid night of ill humours they cut for partners. Greenhide cut Flanagan. He refused to "partner a nigger - let him play with the old Chow". The boy's eyes narrowed black with hate. He played badly, a target for Greenhide's caustic wit. At a cruel jibe, he snatched the gun and shot Greenhide dead. The slush lamp crashed to the floor."
Viv
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Follow Up By: Kim and Damn Dog - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 19:53
Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 19:53
Viv
That certainly answers the question. Thanks.
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: Member - Footloose - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 20:09
Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 20:09
No wonder he's rarely mentioned ! Wouldn't be PC :))
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:39
Reply By: NUTS! - Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 00:11
Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 00:11
Try either of Mary Durrack's books on her forefathers:
Kings in grass castles
Son's in the Saddle
The later is more likely to have a mention, and it definatly has words about Nat Buchanan, her father knew him quite
well apparently?
Both books are an excellent read on Australian history.
Best of luck.
NUTS!
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