maps and oziexplorer

Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 16:17
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Firstly, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all Exploroz users and administrators.

I have a Garmin GPS III and am investigating linking that up to my laptop and using mapping software etc for planning and whilst on holidays. I have looked through the site archives and looked through about 100 forum entries.

Basically the question is: Once I purchase oziexplorer, I then have to purchase a map dvd or cd so oziexplorer has something to read? Is that correct?

Next question, There are a few types of maps to input, natmap, hema raster, auslig etc. I am used to using hema paper maps. Is there any advantages one over the other? Or are there other types out there that are a better choice than either of these?

thanks in advance.

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Reply By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 16:33

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 16:33
that is correct, Ozi doesn't come with any maps, you need to purchase them.
At the moment probably the easiest way to buy the maps is to get the latest Hema 4WD DVD (link: http://www.hemamaps.com.au/default.asp?p=68&ParentId=35).
This place was the cheapest http://www.hemamaps.com.au/retailer.asp?url=http://www.australian-4x4.com and delivered very promptly.
On this you will get all the Natmap 1/250k for the whole country and every Hema (including the GDT series) map plus all the map files to go with them.
You can buy it online by following the links on the Hema website or here on exploroz.
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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 16:35

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 16:35
Locally if you at Beecroft in Sydney The tent/camping place at Thornleigh might have it or the map shop at Parramatta.
I'm in Hornsby.
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Reply By: Ozboc - Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 17:37

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 17:37
OR - you can download the maps for free from http://www.gpsaustralia.net/forums/ - i have been using these maps for 2 years now with no issue

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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 17:41

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 17:41
Yep, agree with Ozboc.

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 19:17

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 19:17
Keeping in mind "the maps" are Vic/NSW..any maybe Tas I think as well, not sure

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Reply By: Member - Rob S (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 18:11

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 18:11
Hema 4wd raster map collection is a start.
Available from Exploroz shop.
And if you are using hema paper maps it is ideal as you can refer back to them and use them in conjunction with the same map on your laptop.
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Reply By: equinox - Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 18:39

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 18:39
Scott,

I have said this before on here. Hema are good for tracks but are useless for topography. Natmaps are excellent for topography but they haven't got all the latest tracks.

I believe Natmaps and Auslig are the same.

If I had to grab only 1 map from my burning vehicle it would be a Natmap.

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 21:05

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 21:05
I will second that.
Happy Christmas to all,
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Follow Up By: Member - Toolman (VIC) - Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:16

Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:16
Scott,
Yes, NATMAP, AUSLIG, and Geoscience Australia(who publish maps and digital data under the NATMAP banner) are various incarnations of the same mapping organisation, formerly know as the Division Of National Mapping. NATMAP became AUSLIG then in about 2001 AUSLIG merged with Australian Geological Survey Office to form Geoscience Australia.

I third your comments re HEMA and NATMAP. HEMA used to, and I presume still do, undertake field validation on many of their maps using GPS technology to position and update tracks and other features. They also used to supply some of this information back to Geoscience Australia(NATMAP) especially road and track information so they too could update their mapping data.

HEMA are better touring maps IMHO but they don't always show the contours which I like to see on maps.

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Reply By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 19:44

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 19:44
Here is a quick list of commercial (and somm non commercial) digital map products you can use with OziExplorer (note: some are expensive as some producers choose to sell the digital version of the map at the same price as the paper copy ..so when a DVD/CD has hundreds of maps you are up for a few bucks).

NOTE 2: Some of these maps sets are avialble in the exploroz shop so check there first before considering purcahse elsewhwere (how was that Dave?)

Exploroz Digital Mapping products for sale

Westprint Outback Tracks - similar to Hema GDT

Westprint - Exploroz Shop

Westprint

They also have a digital version of their Holland Track (WA) paper map ready for use with OziExplorer

Meridian Maps have these

The Otways - 4WD Map
Sydney Adventures- 4WD Map
Wombat State Forest - 4WD Map
Victoria's Deserts - 4WD Map

Exploroz Shop - Meridian Maps

Meridian Map website

Australian TopoView Raster 2006 maps produced by the LPI of NSW

TopoView Raster 2006 maps on DVD are exact digital copies of the NSW Lands Department's topographic maps. They cover the whole of NSW and vary in scales from 1:100,000 (Western Region), 1:50,000 (Central NSW) and 1:25,000 (Eastern NSW)

Octa PC Topoview Maps for sale

Qld: Sunmap Raster CD contains all the available 1:25,000 scale topographic maps as georeferenced ECW images. Covers South East Queensland and some other major towns. These maps can be imported into OziExplorer.

QLD Sunmaps

Digital nautical charts
WA Marine Charts
Aus Marine Charts

Tasmania - TASMAP raster map

Tas Gov website

PDF catalogue download of Tas maps

West Oz Maps

Kimberley 50K
Pilbara 50K
South West WA 50K
South West WA 25K
(100k south and west cost WA available soon)

WA Digital Mapping

South Aust
Scanned 1:50 000 Topographical map series
South Australia

All of Australia 250K Geology maps

250K Geology Maps

Victoria maps

Victoria digital maps

NSW 25K map download

click to download 25K maps NSW

NSW 50K map download

click to download 50K maps NSW


You can use just about any digital map in oziexplorer as long as it is in right raster format and can be calibrated so may other sources around

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 19:58

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 19:58
Sorry - stuffed up half those links - will post proper ones later - got to go

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Follow Up By: equinox - Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 20:00

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008 at 20:00
Thanks Greg.

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:55

Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:55
Yes, thanks Greg.

Is there anybody who does better satellite photo maps than Google or the ones you get when you buy the NATMAP series?

Thanks,

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 at 10:18

Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 at 10:18
Sorry for late reply Willie

Google Earth uses images from a variety of sources and are taken using satellites or aeroplanes (ie they are not all satellite photos, some are “air” photos). For work I use air photos from the WA land admin department called Landgate. They don’t have the same coverage of WA as GE but the images they do have are more current and higher resolution that GE (generally speaking). The images are not “free” – though like GE you can do screen captures if you want (talking theoretically here – wouldn’t dream of doing that myself and breaching copyright). I can only assume other states have similar set ups?

I am not sure what sat pics come with Natmap, assume you can get them from their website as well, maybe that have better ones as well, haven’t looked.

Apart from that cant help.

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 at 19:20

Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 at 19:20
Hi Greg,

I certainly am not complaining - you are out there working hard, but still helping me with all my dumb questions.

I went to Landgate. It showed the areas they cover, but did not say what the scale would be of anything except Perth and the surrounding areas. That means I might buy it and end up with something no better than free google earth. A lottery !

I am downloading a geological map of the Laverton area (250,000) from the link you gave above - it is taking forever. I will transfer onto it, all my points of interest I have found on Google Earth - it will be an interesting exercise.

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 at 19:35

Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 at 19:35
Hello
I think you have register to view specific data on air photos available, age and resolution.

This shows you what they have done but states that it doesnt necessarily indcate a product is available or in what form.

Landgate Airphoto coverage

I hope you are not planning on coming over here and stealing our gold!

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Reply By: Member - Toolman (VIC) - Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:32

Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:32
Scott,
Just something that hasn't been mentioned that you may not yet be aware of. If you have a scanner you can create your own maps by scanning paper maps and then calibrating them. Of course you can only use maps that show Geographic (Latitude and Longitude) or Grid coordinates (Eastings and Northings).

I don't want to get too technical here but if you are interested then you can start investigating the methodology. It is a cheap way to start using OziExplorer and there are many people who can help you get started.

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Follow Up By: Member - sdr00y (Beecroft) - Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 at 19:03

Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 at 19:03
Toolman, I had read about scanning maps in. I do have scanner and some maps already but think it may be a bit time consuming doing it that way. I may be lazy??? or is in convenience??? perhaps a combination of both! But I think I will purchase the digital maps.

Cheers for raising that point though.
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Follow Up By: HGMonaro - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:47

Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:47
I did this for a recent trip to the Flinders Ranges. Time consuming for a large area but ok for a specific region you know you're spending some time around.
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 at 14:54

Tuesday, Jan 06, 2009 at 14:54
There was a story posted in a tread on here some time ago about someone who was geographically embarrassed in a national park - lots of unmarked tracks and some marked ones missing.

They found a display board that had a map on it, took a digital photo, downloaded it to the lappy, registered it using some known coords from the park boundaries then used Ozi to navigate their way out.

Neat but not gaudy!

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Reply By: Member - sdr00y (Beecroft) - Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 at 19:06

Thursday, Dec 25, 2008 at 19:06
Thanks all for your replies and sharing your wealth of knowledge.

I would prefer to put back into this site as much as I can so will research and probably buy what I can via the shop here.

Cheers all

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