Muddy's or all terrains around perth?

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Hey guys i'm new to this forum and to the state of W.A., I've allways gone muddy's over All terrains in Melbourne due to the nature of the ground there but was curios to know if All Terrains are better suited to Perths conditions just cause im up for a new set, Dont get me wrong the muddy's hace proved them selves but most people seem to be driving around on All Terains any help would be great, Oh i plan on doing bit of travelling to the kimberly's in the winter as well
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:03

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:03
"The Kimberley"
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Follow Up By: mowing - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:56

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:56
yep, there is only one.........
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 20:23

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 20:23
nope thers at least 2 the east and west so more than 1 makes it the kimberlies

same as you have a southern, northern and eastern goldfieldS
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Follow Up By: Bob of KAOS - Tuesday, Mar 03, 2009 at 23:46

Tuesday, Mar 03, 2009 at 23:46
So when I go the great southern land I go "the Australias" (there is West Australia, South Australia and more, so more than one makes it 'the Australias').

Get out more, the people who say the Kimberlies, Kimberley's or Kimberly's or whatever, aren't referring to the east or west Kimberley, or both, they are repeating an erroneous term, probably based on the misconception that the region is named after a mountain range, like the Brindabellas, or the Snowies (The Snowy Mountains).

Check any map - its the Kimberley. If someone visiting northern Victoria said they were going to the Mallies you'd think WTF? Same with Kimberlies.


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Reply By: Member - William H (WA) - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:37

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:37
Welcome to the west, and hope you enjoy yourself and stay, for a wile, i have had B F Goodrich AT's on my HJ/47 tojo for three years and is 90% on the black stuff, still have 50% left, and no trouble with them.

Cheers fro now...William H...Bunbury...WA.
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Reply By: Mick W - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:49

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:49
ATs should see you get through most things around perth, that is unless you like the slightly more extreme such as the powerlines, Bob's hill and collie areas where the muddies might be a slightly better choice. However you will still have no problems navigating your way through those areas with ATs.

I have always used ATs around Perth and beyond and have ra4rely had a need for a more aggressive tread pattern
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Follow Up By: Member - BUNDY BOY (WA) - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:07

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:07
hay there Mick........Bobs hill ..please expane

Bundy
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Follow Up By: Inkbandit79 - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 21:57

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 21:57
Mick could you give me a heads up on these tracks i dont mind pushing the issue a liitle bit when it comes to the rough stuff (within reason of course)
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Follow Up By: Mick W - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 23:17

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 23:17
hey guys,

out back of Harvey way. BEst to have a look at www.perth4x4.net as many of the guys frequent that way very often, especially with some of the tough truck set ups they have. Also there has been a bit posted on youtube of guys tackiling it in zooks, cruisers, pootrols etc etc.

Certainly doesnt suit my 'laid back' style of travel

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Reply By: _gmd_pps - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:57

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:57
AT's .. muddiies dig too much in sand
good luck
gmd
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Reply By: Member - BUNDY BOY (WA) - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:11

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 19:11
Bandit.........on my third set of at's....and been alllover on the black top.....and cut through places you wouldn't have thought possible ......stick with the proven

Bundy
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Reply By: Member - Matt (Perth-WA) - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 20:56

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 20:56
Ink...If you stay coastal or rural you should be fine in ATs for just about everything you could encounter and enjoy the better mileage and road manners.

You can find mud in the West but the benefits of the 99% ATs outweigh the 1% you could benefit from the MTs.

I have MTs and my mates in identical vehicles require less throttle and can generaly maintain momentum with higher tyre pressures than I can.

Welcome and all the best

Matt.
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Follow Up By: Inkbandit79 - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 22:04

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 22:04
Thanks matt were was most of your 4wheelin done my hunjy has the dreaded ifs front end and due to the lack of travel i like as much traction as i can get, I even thought of installing a live axel on the front but the cost has turned me off a little, what brand and preasures have you been running i got bfg's and they seem ok on the sand then again it might be cause they're running low on tread
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt (Perth-WA) - Tuesday, Mar 03, 2009 at 14:38

Tuesday, Mar 03, 2009 at 14:38
Ink...ive just about done nearly all Aust can throw at least once and have heaps more to do again. Lived in central QLD, Brisbane, Sydney and travelled all over before coming home to WA a few years ago.

Ran ATs most of my 4wdriving life and only got the MTs due to price and supplier was a mate, they are Maxxis Mudders. I love them but the ATs NEVER let me down even in pretty serious mud in mount sugarloaf after rain.

Agree the IFS is a hassle but less than you would think in WA....Unless you wish to do the extreme rock hopping stuff. If you are a tourer and just want to see the west....you would be fine with just about any 4WD.

A locker in the front evens things out between IFS and SA...but again if you are going to do mostly sand then it will help little.

I find my Muddies with good tread do try to dig quicker than the AT equivalents and for beach I will start at around 14-16 (depending on the approach track you get hard with limestone rocks that kill rims and sidewalls if too low) and then start dropping a few PSI if the engine labours.

Generaly dont ever need to go under 10 psi but can be done quite safely if you keep the speed down.

again... all the best, matt.
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Reply By: Inkbandit79 - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 21:55

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 21:55
thanks heaps was planning on some heavy tracks in the hills, a little bit like home i guess but am having trouble finding some good day trips, is there any books available with track listings and gps points that are close to town, still new here and dont really know all the good spots yet,
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Follow Up By: Matt(WA) - Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 22:56

Monday, Mar 02, 2009 at 22:56
Ink,

We do a fair few day trips and overnighters out of Perth. I am Sout of the River in Safety Bay. Tere are a few EO guys down here. Dwellingup is a nice easy day trip, as is the mundaring powerline trail. Both of thos routes are on EO under tripa,WA. Get one of these 4wd Days out of Perth and Roads and Tracks of WA . You will have no dramas with all terrain tyres. I run ST and they handle fine. We are heading down to Nannup over easter too

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Reply By: Member - John W (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 03, 2009 at 00:37

Tuesday, Mar 03, 2009 at 00:37
FWIW I found the Kimberley(s) rough on tyres.
shreded a good AT on a back road of Kununarra,
talking with the local tyre guys in the town-they all use MT.
thousands of sharp rocks sticking up, seems to me the xtra chunck
of MT gives a little more protection.
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Reply By: Member - evren1 (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:58

Tuesday, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:58
hey mate,

cooper ATR's have served my 100 series well for the past couple of years. I'm down Margret River way so majority of my driving is gravel and beach, and much better on black top for the occasional drive to Perth. Have done power line track in pretty awful conditions and had no probs!

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