climbing ayres rock?

I doubt it... When I climbed it, only about 1 in 20 people seemed to go up

Cheers, I've climbed it twice, the last time was 4 years ago but my youngest daughter was two small at the time and we've been waiting til shes old enough to go back and climb it as a family. Wpould be pretty disappointed to find it has been closed permanently. I understand to hot/windy because I've been up there when there is a bit of a breeze and it can be quite unsettling.
Cheers

It is suggested that visitors don't climb the rock out of respect for 'cultural reasons' whatever that means.

Well let me educate you,

The rock as a whole is not considered a sacred site, however there are areas of the rock that are, There is no direct cultural reason why you can't climb the rock, In Aboriginal culture they feel responsible for anyone being hurt or worse on their land, so Traditional owners feel that with all the people that have been hurt or killed climbing the rock it would be best to restrict access to it on days were it could become a danger for people to climb it, or suggest for your own safety you don't climb it at all.

It is there way of protecting the foolish from them selves, so if you want to and are more than capable of climbing it then go and climb it, if you aren't then respect the way the traditional owners would feel if you get hurt or worse.

I have been there twice and not climbed it yet my reason is I will do one day, probably when the young bloke is a bit older.

Cheers Steve.

Not quite right there Steve.

It is fact that the traditional owners prefer that people don't climb the rock. However, they do not actually stop anyone from doing so, unless for reasons of safety and I suspect this is as much a requirement of the NT Government regulations as much as any "traditional" requirements.

When conditions such as strong winds or rain is present, the "caged" entry to the climb is locked, so that people cannot access the climbing route.

One of the reasons for this safety issue, is that there is a real danger to the rescue party who must climb the route to attempt the retrieval of some peckerhead who has found themself in severe difficulty.

Bill.

Yeah it is a joint management between the traditional owners and Parks Australia North, there for the decision is probably a joint one, needless to say that my comments about how they feel if someone is hurt are correct, PAN are actually federal as apposed to Territory, they are the same mob who look after Kakadu.

Cheers`Steve

Ken, let's try a more meaninful comparison. How would you feel about (say Japanese) tourists climbing up on war memorial statuies to have their photos taken at the top? Just look at the reaction of Australians to the roadworks at our "sacred site" in Turkey.

Well Mfewater if you reckon that's your idea of a meaningful comparison go for it. A couple of things though, our memorials are just that, structures created to recognise sacrifices. When was it that the rock was declared a memorial ? Never heard any indigenous people refer to it as a memorial. As for your nonsense about Gallipoli, nobody is upset about people walking about the place, its a bit different digging things up though wouldn't you say ?
You sound like one of the starry eyed apologists for everything involving indigenous people regardless of the facts of the matter.
Ken

Gotta love that quick slide to the personal with the "starry eyed apologist for everything involving indigenous people".
It's not the 'walking about" that is the issue for the local people, it's the number of deaths that have occurred at a site they do not want to be marked by death. To you (and me), a "memorial to sacrifice" is an adequate reason to want a place treated with respect. But there can be many other reasons. You just have to respect other cultural perspectives as well as your own.
And if there seem to be a lot of indigenous sacred sites, give us time, they have had some 40,000 years to accumulate theirs so we have lots of time left for significant events to happen at lots of places so we can have a lot of sacred sites as well.

Please explain...........

No photos allowed of nearly every promanant feature around the base of the rock with signs threatening 10K fines either side of the feature along the base walk track and noPhotography allowed in the cultural centre.

That info was correct as of 2003 appologies if it has changed.

the only thing you can photo of any interest is a wave/cave feature

Well summed up Truckie!!!!!

Krakka

If you want a straight answer contact Park Administration:

Ph (+61) 8 8956 1100
Fax (+61) 8 8956 2064

E-mail: uluru.admin@environment.gov.au

If you want to risk a 'hijack' and (heaven forbid) some alternate discussion, then post your question on a forum such as this.

No room on the soapbox, you're hogging it.

Matt.

Thanks for the contact numbers, I just rang them and no its not closed permanently, just subject to the usual weather conditions.
Ta

Was open last week except for a windy period.
It costs no more to walk it.
Has a rope right up to near the top to hang on to
The $25 entry fee to the park covers it.
Lovely to wach the idiots coming down on their bums cos the thongs dont hold them.
No wonder people die Some have no idea whats entailed .


Cheers.

yes love the idiots sliding down on their bums

- I have clearly etched in my memory possibley the tidiest barely 20yo german young lady doing just that and ending up with her pants well down giving her an appearance any builder would have been plased at with that exposed crack

surely they would be wedged up her crack?

G’day Redbakk, Good photo, I have a similar one… climbed it a couple of months ago. Just thought some may be interested to know that this shot is taken from only a bit over half way to the summit. Definitely worth the climb.

yes, the chain doesn't go all the way to the top, but there's a dotted white line to follow :)