Advice needed re towing and carrying a slide on!

Thanks for your reply David and REVS. Can you tell me what the GVM's of your vehicles are? The GVM of the 2007 Patrol is 3400 and the GCM is 6200kgs.

cheers

Jen2

Using your quoted figures (which I take to be correct) 6200 - 3400 = 2800kg. Take off the 750kg for slideon camper and we have 2050kg.

I don't know what the ATM of a horse float is (with a couple of horses) but I'm pretty sure with all your additional gear you could be overweight.

Recently I looked at the factory for Creative Conversions (Brendale - Brisbane) thinking of doing a dual cab conversion to my Patrol. They told me they can also do a 500kg upgrade to the vehicle. If you went to a lazy axle (6x4) (Cruiser/Patrol) then the GVM can be raised substantially.

HTH

Malcolm I probably being blonde but don't you combine Tare weight with the load and then subtract that off off the GCM to get the max weight you can tow?

ie tare (2123) + load (slide on - 750) = 2837

GCM 6200 - 2837 = 3363 for thing being towed?

jen2

Most probably ME being blonde (more like silver these days ;-) )

I incorrectly took the weight of the camper off the vehicle GVM.

So what I get is GCM (6200) minus GVM (3400) equals 2800 for tow rig.

I know my old 20' caravan loaded up was around 2500kg. (max I could be, because my Patrol was auto).

Pretty scary all this stuff, especially when the insurance company these days is looking for ANY excuse to refuse to pay claims.

Malcolm

Don't let the coppers read this .. rofl.
Don't know your year (Nissan that is) but it will never ever have a GVM
of 4.2t, but thats just a guess.

have fun
gmd

gmd
My Nissan is a 2003 year model and I don't think they vary too much. I do have a lot of gear fitted to the truck.
With the canopy & camper off it came in at 3.28 tonnes on the weighbridge last Sunday after off loading some rubbish at the waste management station.

I know this has nothing to do with the published GVM of vehicles. What I do know is what I do and express the performance and ability of the vehicle.

I believe that if we all checked our vehicles rated capacity against what happens in the real world these are quite different.

Unfortunately standard off the shelf 4wd's cannot carry and perform as they are stated in any case.
I have owned this vehicle from new and without it being set up properly to carry weight if I put 1000kgs on its back its bum would be on the ground.

Hence this is why most people set up their vehicles to do many different duties.
Many years ago I did my apprenticeship in a trucking company that had mainly tip trucks. The first thing that happened to a new truck was completely strip it down and rebuild and strengthen the chassis and suspension so that it was capable of handling the conditions that it had to work in, the very same as we have to do with new 4wd's.

I do not think that there are too many vehicles that are travelling this country towing large vans and or loaded carrying weeks of supplies across the deserts that are stock standard and comply with the manufacturers standards.
You normally see the standard vehicles towing a 14ft van at a beachside caravan park or outside the private schools in Double Bay.

I know what I do with my vehicle and what its capabilities are and use it accordingly. Maybe it is not totally legal, I travel sensibily and normally alone without incident accident or damage.

I am very confident that I would be much safer towing a tandem horse float with two horses down the road with my setup that a falcon station wagon which you see every weekend at some pony club events.

Regards
John

Depends if you want to make it legal ?

My daughter and boyfriend have the same problem. 2 horses + sleeping quarters.

put a canopy on the back and sleep in there until you can afford to build
a 5th wheel float with upfront living quarters. If you want to use that for
travels without horse float than built and extended trailer where you can load
the slide-on in front of the horses.

If you have the funds eventually get a decent US vehicle, then you can
load and tow whatever you like. My kids wait to inherit mine, but that will take
some time though.

good luck
gmd