MORE grog restrictions!!!!

Traveller
Public Roads or not, if restrictions are in place, take the warning. Just Like the Great Central Road, it may be the Gateway from WA into the NT and beyond, but is dry, why, as it is Aboriginal land all the way through.

Cheers

Stephen

What a joke.

When they eventually bituminise the Great Central Road, what's going to happen then?

It's a stupid situation, but typical. Introduce a law that adversely affects EVERYBODY because a minority can't cope.

It's a bad law.

In all my years of travelling this wide brown (and sometimes green) land, through and across the outback, I still have to be stopped and asked to produce A) my drivers licence, B) an aboriginal lands access permit, C) the contents of my vehicle(except for fruit fly checkpoints).

The necessity to have all of this documentation with you is a farce solely aimed at those who quiver at the thought that they may be in TROUBLE if they did something 'wrong'. It serves no purpose other than to be part of a workers job description

Whereas there may be isolated cases of compliance checked or requested, the chances that you may be stopped anywhere in the outback, in relation to vehicle movements, is infintesimally small

It is all words with no substance

**What a joke.

When they eventually bituminise the Great Central Road, what's going to happen then?

It's a stupid situation, but typical. Introduce a law that adversely affects EVERYBODY because a minority can't cope.

It's a bad law.**

Bloody Oath it is,I'm not a drinker but they've lost the plot..Its always the way 5% stuff up so were all crucified for it..

Not that it worries me, as I am Diesel, but I think that the biggest joke is the Opal fuel. For such a very small number of people, all petrol powered vehicles all through the Central Australia area have to use Opal - Why - to combat the petrol sniffing from such a very small number of people. Having spoken to a number of people that live out there, it is mainly the Aboriginals themselves that are doing the Petrol Business. I was told by a very reliable source from the Great Central that many make the run from Warburton to Laverton, just to buy ULP, and can make $2000 from a single 20 litre jerry can.

Cheers

Stephen

Stephen, I have a good friend who is a police officer stationed on an aboriginal settlement in NT who tells me that Opal fuel has had a very significant positive result in reducing petrol sniffing in NT.

Traveller
This indeed policed very heavily around Alice and gets a mention every week in the paper as to how grog was convenscated and tipped out, quite a heavy fine as well

Yeah, I have read the rules. I was in Alice not so long ago. Didn't see anything like you mention. Maybe its an Urban myth perpetuated by the media. Maybe you can post a link to newspaper reports

Gone Bush Wrote.....

It's a stupid situation, but typical. Introduce a law that adversely affects EVERYBODY because a minority can't cope.

It's a bad law.


AGREE ENTIRELY.

Hi Allan,
Sure this may be the case, but have been told by a person here in Clare that used to cart fuel up north that all you have to do with opal is strain it through a foam coffee cup and it will give them the same results as normal ULP. My sister lives in Alice and she also said that you can not buy clear metho up there, it all has a purple die through it so they can not drink it. She then told me that they then would buy a tank top loaf of bread, cut the crust off of both ends and then pour the purple metho through the top of the bread. What drained out the bottom could then be drank. It seems like that what ever we do to try and make it good for a very small minority, they can also find a very simple and easy way around to still give them the same effect.

Like I said above, it is the innocent that are effected by these moves.

Cheers

Stephen

All Metho sold anywhere in Australia has to have additives to make it "undrinkable", because no tax has been paid on the ethanol.

Just tasting a tiny amount of it convinces me it's "undrinkable", yet I still see the alcoholics in the parks in Sydney swigging it.

There is no perfect solution to any problem - but it depends on what you see the as the problem -
- a) to stop loss of government revenue by stopping MOST people drinking untaxed ethanol - the current solution is a success.
- b) to stop people ruining their health drinking ethanol with dangerous additives - the current solution is a failure.
. . . . but considering the success of part a), the government will not be motivated to come up with a better solution.

Stephen, I think you will find that if you put petrol in a foam cup it willdissolve the cup!

And if you are going to drink metho I doubt that a purple dye will put you off so why spend on a loaf of bread.

Myths!!!

Not quite Myths, but not 100% right either.
I think you will find that AVGAS and polystyrene was the old trick but it doesnt work with OPAL for some reason. Many concoctions have been tried but arent a big issue because they havent been sucsesful.
As for metho........it is just too hard to get. That is why they moved to mouthwash and then essence untill that too was taken off the shelves....same as paint is locked and cant be purchased without ID.

Cheers

hi
in respect to the great central road this is my opinion only :

it should be made an un-restricted corridor /highway access route free of all conditions whether it goes through aboriginal land or not the the east west nullarbor rd road from sa to wa to the best of my knowledge is free of the above even though it passes through yatal la aboriginal land but except for border control check points
so why not the great central i think we are being hoodwinked
mazcan barry

Yep . . let's ban cigarettes totally, some start bushfires when thrown out the window.

Let's ban all takeaway food and drink - people just litter the countryside with the paper wrapping - you have to it in.

Good point, I hate smoking.Inconsiderate people.
All litter is bad but you see more beer bottles than anything else and drunk idiots cost this country millions of dollars.

All true Mike.

A way to make people accountable is hit them in the pocket. Not the weak system they have now. If you drink drive you lose your car immediately, you get caught littering, how about a $3k fine or have to clean the road sides for a month, get caught tossing out a ciggy from the car- then you lose the car and a huge fine. Get fair dink um with accountability, some people only know they've done wrong when they get a smack so let's do so. Some of our road ways are disgusting with litter. Some road side stops have .... everywhere (I don't need to spell it out).

Still where do you stop. Our pollies lie and go back on promises, what do we do, oooh that's ok we'll give you another go next time.

Bang!!!!!

Its a bit like saying, ban 4wd's because I dont have one isnt it?

Have to agree Hairy - it's very easy to suggest a ban on something when it doesn't affect ourselves.

Banning alcohol will do nothing for the litter problem though, you'll just see Coke bottles or RedBull cans everywhere instead.

Hahahahahahaha.............
At least your a consistant pain in the ar$e! LOL

im with you, i enjoy getting to a destination and having a couple,i dont think that myself or others who travell are going to hand over or sell grog, dam when im loaded up with 5 onboard, ive only got enough room for a few anyway , they still penalize the wrong ones as if they cant tell who is travelling or who is selling

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