"Ayers Rock" Campground
Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 15:34
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pmk3
Ah! They were the days....... No shelter, No doors on the showers, walking distance to the "Rock" Sorry, .... Dreaming of the good 'ol days. Does anyone have pics of the old Ayers
Rock Campground? My first visit was 1981,
well before
Yulara was built & IMHO spoilt the place.
I can remember the Service station there & also 3 Pubs in a semicircle. Does anyone remember their names? Didn't take any
pic's myself on that trip, used to travel light compared to now (Datsun 180B
sedan) & can't find any on the net. Except for around the time of Azaria going missing. I do recall a disgruntled truckie driving through one of the pubs around that time too.
Just trying to refresh my memory of the real Ayers
Rock Experience......
Thanks,
PMK
Reply By: briann532 - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 15:52
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 15:52
G'day PMK,
What??? You don't think being overcharged to get bad service and facilities run by english backpackers, and being made to feel guilty for being Australian, isn't the "true" Ayers
rock experience.
Truly you are out of touch with modern man!!!
Its not even Ayers'
Rock anymore, he gave it back.............
On a serious note, even though I'll probably get a few replies of disgruntled humourless "aussies", life does move on and experiences are never the same.
Tis a shame, but we have lots of good things now too.
Great memories like yours are others are a recollection of a life
well lived!
Cheers
Brian
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Follow Up By: pmk3 - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:03
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:03
My point exactly....
It's certainly a different experience now, Just not my cup of tea.
Thanks for your closing comment
PMK
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:12
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 16:12
Personally, I have found Ayers
Rock Campground to be quite reasonable cost wise.
Also meals at the Pioneer Lodge are fairly priced as
well.
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Follow Up By: pmk3 - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 17:46
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 17:46
Thanks for your comments Shaker,
I am asking about the old
campground experiences, before
Yulara & "Uluru"
I Think I paid around $3.00 for a tent site back then....... Now thats reasonable.
PMK
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Follow Up By: Galloping Tortoise - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 17:54
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 17:54
PMK
Sorry can't help you mate. My cobber and I did the Plenty H'way, Alice Ayres
Rock bit 22 yrs ago. Onlly place we had to pitch
camp between Charters Towers and
Birdsville. Was not bad, cept management were worried our Rotty dog get the
dingo's...lol, but were even offered a job. We did not even feel guilty climbing
the rock nor walking around it. Had to put an Indigionous flag on windscreen though (no probs, we flew an Ozzie flag too) Mate and I are doin the Strzelecki next year with my "handbrake". She's a texan....dunno want she's infor.
Great
forum mates.
GT
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 17:54
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 17:54
The Suzuki Clubs of Australia had a gathering there in 1978. We camped in the open just to the north of the motels on New Years Eve and went for drinkies at the Ansett Lodge? Climbed
the rock the next morning without taking a bottle of
drinking water with us (can't remember if there were plastic bottles in those days). Got a tad parched but found some holes with clear water up there and had a good drink. Later we had a run-in with the
Ranger, the late Derek Roff, about driving off road. It wasn't us but he insisted on making a fuss. A long drawn out saga followed. There were no indigenous camps around at that time. Thats all I can recall :-)
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Follow Up By: pmk3 - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:05
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:05
Thanks Willem,
The
camp near the motels sound right. I remember it being an easy stumblin' distance back to my tent. Ansett does ring a bell. No doubt one was called "Red Sands" too.
Didn't know the
ranger but spent some time with the mechanic at the servo.
Fixing a snapped rear crossmember bolt on the old 180B. But couldn't remember his name. Wouldn't believe it ....... He had the genuine bolt in stock.
But I think he charged a fourtune for it. Hmm! Maybe some things haven't changed!!
I do remember indigenous folk around in 1981. Thats how I remember no doors on the showers....... The kids found it quite amusing!!
PMK
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Follow Up By: Twintrail(W.A.) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 00:37
Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 00:37
Hi Willem.was there in 73. climed
the rock bare foot. the
ranger at the time told us that we were the first white fellows he knew of that had climed bare foot.long time ago but rember a bunyip money box at the top. regards twintrail
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 07:19
Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 07:19
G'day Twintrail
Yer one tuff cookie, eh?...lol
Did you find anything on your recent excursion out in the goldfields?
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Malcolm (Townsville) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:19
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 18:19
I was up there about 1978 with a convoy of half a dozen Army Land Rovers. We had just finished a recce on
Alice Springs and surrounds (
Palm Valley, Herrmansburg come to mind) for logistics and made a quick detour to
the rock on the way back.
Pulled into the
camp ground and setup our swags etc. Local copper pulled up and invited us all out on the town (LOL). We all climbed on the back of his ute and took off to one of the Motels for a drink. One drink and he said, "come on, we're leaving". I asked why and he said, "There's three prices: Tourist prices; Local prices; and "in the know prices, and I only pay the last one". We then went to the old motel at the base of
the rock and "settled in". About 2000hrs (that's 8pm) the heavens opened up. We raced back to the
camp ground but everything was absolutelt saturated. We stayed the night in the motel's billiard room. I can remember huddling in the corner with just one dry spot on the blanket pressed against my cheek. What a miserable night LOL.
In the morning, the fog completely surrounded
the rock. About 1000hrs it lifted and we could see the water cascading down
the rock. What a magnificant sight. There was a
dingo chasing the frogs down the middle of the track; an american tourist had his camera out filming it. "My God, have ya ever seen enything like this", he said. NO!! It was one my my life's great experiences.
As a side note: The local copper had closed the roads due to the rain. I was convoy commander and pleaded with him to let us out. He opened the road for two hours for 4WD vehicles only. Gave me the directions to head to the
SA Border and follow it back to the highway. What a great drive. Wet sand all the way - just like bitumen.
I recalled that story to a group of tourists I was guiding in
Townsville about 1998 and one of them said, "I remember that water cascading off
the rock, I was there". Small world isn't it?
Enjoy
Malcolm
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Follow Up By: pmk3 - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:00
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:00
Thanks
Malcolm,
Your story brings back the character or the old place. These are slowly disappearing over time. It's good to hear, takes me back.
Have never seen the rain there & probably never will now. Been there half a dozen times over the years, still amazes me but the resort thing is not my scene.
What an amazing conicidence with the tourist in
Townsville.
PMK
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony Z (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 22:38
Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 22:38
I was out there in 1979 Aug. in a Kombi ( you know the hippy years ) i'm now 52
We, the girl friend and I just were amazed at the size of
the rock, as you were camped that close. When you woke and came out for the day it was in your face.
Then it rained for days and we were flooded in for about 4weeks, luckly we had a great neighbour as he had a Suzuki ( 1 of those 3cyl jobs) He lent it to us so we could go out to see and climb the Olga's, in the rain mind you, not the easy way that you do it now, but up a face sitting in
cave's to shelter from the wind and rain
The road was dirt from just out of Alice to Ayre's
Rock and down to near
Crystal Brook
Ah for the memories !!!
That's why we went there again just 2weeks ago. So different we just sat there for hours just watching the FOOLS climb up
the rock.
I did try but was to windy and only got to top of chain then returned to ground as the wind got up. It was closed not long after
Ah the memories!!!!
Got some old Slides of
the rock from way back then
Ah the memories !!!!
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Reply By: Serendipity of Mandurah (WA) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:32
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 19:32
It is hard to find pictures from days older than the internet. (internet invented circa 1990 by Timothy
John Berners-Lee).
It is sad that so many
places are being 'sanitized' for the peoples own good. It would be great to visit these
places before you need to park the 3km back and pay the $$$ to trek to the
lookout and view from a distance.
It is true that great
places only need a few filthy campers to leave rubbish like campfire burn tins and
toilet paper messages to ruin it for others. And I can understand
places with heavy tourism will soon become disgusting. Especially with your 4x4 tour cars that have no shovel to bury their waste and they come from another country and don't care about this one.
I did find some old Ayers
Rock pics posted on www.dellabarkley.id.au/memorylane/memorylane.html.
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Follow Up By: pmk3 - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:36
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:36
How True about one time visitors & their lack of care once they have left.
The "been there done that" type of people.
The adventure of a trip to these
places is lost because of the easy access nowadays. Anybody can get there with little effort. I guess if you've not seen it before the tourist proofing it still has a certain adventure about it, but your right about the sanitizing.
Thanks for the pics. Pretty much the same as the one I have of the
dingo at my tent in the old
camp.
PMK
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Follow Up By: Serendipity of Mandurah (WA) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:15
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2009 at 21:15
Years ago I read Canadian national parks had a surcharge when leaving. If you did not leave with bags of rubbish equivalent to the number of people and the length of your stay you had to pay a surcharge for the rangers to go back and pick up your rubbish. No
bins provided in park only at the entrance/exit.
Sounded like a great idea to me.
You had to collect all your rubbish and present it as you left.
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Reply By: Member - COLIN D (VIC) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 08:16
Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 08:16
Hi pmk3
I was there in 1980 when Azaria went missing , i took lots of slides , what was i thinking ? we were in a Holden panel van , a bag of clothes an esky and a tent , and a tool box , that was about it .
I also climbed
the rock in bare feet , no water , no sun screen , no hat ,and no brains .
Our car did a nose dive into the sandy track at Kings Canyon where the car park is now , back then it was bush and 2 wheel tracks in the sand and you could
camp there , the fan blades went through the radiator , so we sawed the fan blades of to make them ballanced , cut the damaged section radiator core out of the radiator rolled up the tubes in the core sealed them with silastic , 2 eggs 1 container of pepper and drove to
the rock and back to
Alice Springs , no problems ,
There were hardly any 4x4 vehicles arround back then when you really needed one , now there is more bitumin and everyone needs a 4x4, me included .
Great Topic
Colin
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Follow Up By: pmk3 - Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:35
Thursday, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:35
Hi Coiln,
Yeh! What were we thinking. Basically unprepared by todays standards. Didn't take much at all, just a few basic tools. I only had one spare. But boy what an adventure it all was.
We still travel now & still love it, but in the comfort of our airconditioned 4WD's with all the safety of communication & a truckload of spares.
Ah take me back to the simple life.......... But then I'm getting older & don't mind the comforts of modern travel either.
PMK
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