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Submitted: Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 22:15
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I have an old SLOWISH Toyota 1985, and am wanting to travel from Brisbane to Canberra. Any suggestions on route to travel? Newell, New England or Pacific Hwy?
A little apprehensive about driving into Sydney, although I believe there is a ring road on the outskirts that bypasses Sydney and leads to Canberra. If I was to travel Pacific Highway Is this road okay for a slowish van not dissimilar to a car towing a caravan. Many thanks
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Reply By: Ken65 - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 22:24

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 22:24
I am sure your Toyota will take you where you need to go. Don't be panicked by driving through Sydney. Get the Tom Tom and let it ell you where you need to go. When we went to Canberra at Easter we went from Brisbane to Port Macquarie (via the pacific) for the night, stayed at the Breakwater Caravan Park (Top Spot) and then on to Canberra the next day. This broke the trip up nicely with the vow that I will return to Port Macquarie to spend more time.
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Follow Up By: Native - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 22:28

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 22:28
Thankyou KenI forgot to mention it is a heavy campervan that is why it is so slow. Is the ringroad easy to navigate, not too fast and is there a particular time of the day thats best.
Many thanks
Annette
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Follow Up By: Ken65 - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 22:36

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 22:36
I just went with the flow of traffic and listened to the directions given by the Tot Tom, it could not of been easier. I too towed a camper trailer that was loaded for a 2 week excursion. I think the Queensland number plates help when driving in Sydney or Melbourne. (The consensus seems to be bloody tourist, and you get a wide berth.) It was a little daunting for my bride when I said we would need to stop in Western Sydney to get fuel. Honestly you would of thought that I said we were stopping in gansta territory. All was good though.
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Reply By: Rockape - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 22:36

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 22:36
Go the Newell
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Follow Up By: Native - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 22:43

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 22:43
Thanks Rockape
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 07:15

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 07:15
The Newell, ofcourse, is Australia's main trucking route. So if you like holding up the B-double trucks...... go for it....LOL
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 07:37

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 07:37
Yes, but it is easy for those trucks to pass on that route
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:06

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:06
Looking at it from the prespective of driving an older, underpowered vehicle and towing as well, and depending on age of the driver, driving the Newell can be a harrowing experience.

I have driven the Newell a number of times in the distant past towing a large caravan and that wasn't fun. Especially when I could see the dead insects on the bullbars of the trucks following me...right up my clacker!

Improvements have been made to the road over the years but with traffic flow of trucks of 1600+ per day and 100kmh speed limit makes it a busy place. I have driven sections of the Newell in the past 18 months with a powerful car. Came in from the west at Gilgandra recently and got stuck between two B'doubles all sitting on the speed limit. Took me 22km to get past the front one as double lines and speed restrictions stop you from kicking the loud pedal in the guts to whizz past.

Now, driving an oldie with a heavy trailer and sitting on 70/80kmh makes for dangerous liaisons :-) But each to his own! My advice is not to put yourself in harms way. Those truckies take no prisoners!!!
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:33

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:33
The other alternative is along Highway 31 (Sesame Street) now you will have trucks.

I tow at 80kph because of my gearing and have no problems, if he has a uhf and pulls of to let others pass, he will have no troubles at all.

No matter what route he takes there will be trucks and lots of them
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 13:01

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 13:01
Ah the good old days - i remember dad driving on those, what would be considered now to be one lane rods on the eyre highway with no overtaking lanes and back then doing WELL above the speed limit was no garantee you wouldnt be holding truckies up. No how you goings by them then either - if they didnt like your speed they really tailgated.

turning into towns could also be interesting. it was 80kph past my home town with 2 access roads and no passing lanes where the turnoff roads were.

If a truckie was behind you you had 2 options
- take the corner at 80kph (not good) or flatten it to the next turnoff .
indicaters well in advance would just get the truckie right up your clacker to let you know he wasnt stopping or slowing for anything
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 23:05

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 23:05
Native, have done that trip a few times over the years. Earlier this year we did a couple of trips between Canberra and Grafton in our '87 Troopy. Went different ways each time, spending a night in a bush camp each time. We decided that the Pacific Hway was the quickest way to go now that the ring road around Sydney makes it so much easier. It is well signposted, but suggest time your trip so that you do that section out of peak hours and you will be fine.

But there are many options to get around Sydney. One route north that we occasionally take, travelling from Canberra is to come in through Bathurst or Oberon, to Kandos then through the Bylong Valley just on the western edge of the Wollemi NP, then in through Denman and Musswellbrook to take us up the New England Hway. Bit of gravel but little traffic and some interesting scenery, as well as some good bush camps. Easy for a Troopy but slower.

HTH,

Val

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Follow Up By: Native - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 23:13

Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 23:13
Thanks so much Val. Did you see any caravans on the ring road? Would you also suggest the Newell or is it too isolated?
Many thanks
Annette
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 06:25

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 06:25
Hi Annette. If you follow John and Val's first paragraph instructions you can't go wrong. The ring road is called the M7 and is a toll road. Our NSW E Tags work in Qld so your's should recipricate I would hope. If not you will have to pay it by phone or internet. As said, try to avoid peak hour as the Sydney north end gets very conjested. There are all manner of vehicles use the M7(well,maybe not horses) The M7 continues right through to the Hume Highway and on to Canberra. It is an easy drive,I promise.Enjoy your trip. Bob.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 07:27

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 07:27
As John and Val said go via The Bylong valley way(all sealed now) this is one of the great scenic drives in Australia. This will completely bypass Sydney andis a much more relaxing Drive. The road from Oberon to Goulbourn is also completely sealed and also has some nice scenery. From Goulbourn take the federal highway. Easy and no stress.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: landed eagle - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 06:58

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 06:58
I've just come home to Hobart from Port Douglas via Pacific Highway with my van, and was a bit concerned about the whole Sydney thing. Spoke to a bloke in Port Stephens and he said it was easy, "just follow the signs to Canberra". We did that ,turned the GPS off to save conflicting messages, and there we were, on the Hume heading towards Goulburn/Canberra. Really simple.
There are a few long climbs on the Pacific HW but most of them have o'taking lanes on them. I found it a pleasant drive with the van on the back.

Nice C/P on the way south we found by accident was the Big4 at Palmers Island on the way into Yamba. Roomy drive through sites with slabs/grass and very quiet.
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Reply By: Wilk0 - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 07:43

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 07:43
Hi Native,

Id go the Newell, But another b road route is go the New england to Tamworth,
From there head to Werris Creek, Premer, then on to Coolah.

From there on to Wellington, Cowra, Yass Canberra.

They are all tar roads and are suprising good smooth roads.

It prob wont be the quickest route though but it wont take too much extra time

Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:52

Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:52
Using the New England Hway and the route south from Tamworth as Wilko suggests would probably be the best route in terms of there being less traffic while staying on sealed roads. There are a few hilly sections that are a bit slow, but if time is not an issue then its fine. Its also quite a scenic run. Did that route on one of our Grafton trips earlier this year - camped at the Goulburn River NP - nice spot but a bit of a detour to go in on a winding gravel road.

Val.
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:19

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:19
This is the way I'd go. Bne to Cnb
I hate using main highways (used by trucks and drug runners). I love seeing a bit of the back country. I'd avoid Sydney like the plague.
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Reply By: robertbruce - Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:47

Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:47
I've done 3 brisbane to adelaide in the last two years. I travelled in an old van that did the speed limit quiet comfortably...

i took the three main routes...

by far the best was the M1. Double laned, smooth and always something going on...

I triued getting off the beaten track to avoid the doubles but only then ran into stock-haulers. Short haulers are much worse for the slower drivers than the highway doubes...

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