O/T Slightly - %&$%^ Rabbits & Ferrets

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Not really travel related but Bush related anyway.

We have got by the back of the house an old railway carriage which the bunnys have taken up residence again. I shot one last night but it isn't a paratical way to get rid of them as i cant be there all the time.

We have tried posien but as we cant get to the actaul burrow mouth we dont feel confortable just leaving piles where other animals amy also take it.

Being an enclosed area i thought of ferrets to get rid of them. I have tried web searches (google is my friend) but either can only find the groups that promote ferrets as animals or the gungho hunter types that really only want to work on large properties.

All i want is some one to come in and remove the rabbits before my paved verandah collapses again.

Alan
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:32

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:32
Hi Alan,
when using ferrets it's essential to get to the burrow mouth to net all entry/exits. So if you can't get to them now, it won't be suitable for ferrets either.

Can you reach the burrow mouth with a long broome handle or length of heavy duty fencing wire? If you can, then you can still lay baits using the wire. Otherwise, run a temp mesh fence all the way around the base of the carriage and then bait.
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:57

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:57
I though we could fence off the base and let the ferret go, or do you actually need the burrow mouth fenced?

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Follow Up By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 13:24

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 13:24
Alan,
the burrow mouth is netted, so that the rabbits are caught as they run from the ferret. If a ferret catches a rabbit, he'll eat it then sleep in the burrow for the next few days. Owner would not be too happy about that.

Gassing is best and most effective... but again.. you need access to the burrows.
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:00

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:00
Okay, thet means ferrets are out, and i will need to look at baits instead of gas.

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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 17:22

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 17:22
Memories !

They just come flooding back, as a kid on the old mans farm, in Sth Gippsland, getting heaps of rabbits.

And so does the nightmare of having ferrets, with a really bad attitudes, trying to eat my fingers.

Worst thing that these little mongrels did to me !



Imagine this
I'm 28 years old, left the farm, married and working.
Just knocked off work and heading to The Astor Hotel in Albury.(Friday thing)

Ferret jumping around office, and doing its sniffing thing,
See you Monday "Boss"
Boss says "do you know anything about ferrets".. yes I replied," had heaps of them on the Old Man's Farm."
Bloody boss told me the little mongrel was nice and tame..I picked it up easy

Me screaming, swearing, and cursing the Boss, as this monster, went from one finger to another, then back and forward from one hand the other..

Mongrel Boss, almost wet his pants laughing, when this thing with the attitude of a very angry "crocadile", tried eating me..
The horror of heading to my favourite Pub with about 20 bandaids on my 1/2 eaten fingers, on both hands..
Talk of the Pub, for a week, as I could hardly hold my beer, with 2 hands, through pain and still shaking...everyone laughing and stirring me !

Great entertainment value for all but me.


Ferrets should be destroyed on site

Can still feel that one eating my fingers some 30 years later
Cheers
Bucky





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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:55

Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:55
hahaha....you probably deserved it
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Follow Up By: landseka - Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 14:16

Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 14:16
Oh yes, thanks for the painful reminder Bucky.

My dad kept ferrets when I was a kid, for rabbiting and they were like pets too.

I was sitting on the ground playing with a Doe one day and she entered the leg of my long trousers at the ankle. It seemed like fun at the time as she crawled up my leg, "look dad, she thinks she is in a burrow".

Did she ever, good fun til the bitch thought she caught a rabbit in the burrow.

Then I started screaming.

I still have the tooth scar to prove it.

Cheers Neil
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Follow Up By: Member - Murray R (VIC) - Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 19:58

Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 19:58
Bucky
That why the agro ones have tails, it's easier to pick them up, once bitten like you were you soon learn this as I did when I had them.
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Reply By: Mandrake's Solar Power- Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:46

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:46
Is this toooooo radical ?

Flame gun

Wet's go huntin wabbits - ahahaha

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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:56

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:56
Mandrake

Like the joke,

whats a wok?

Its a thing you throw at a wabbit when you haven' got a wifle.



It looks like a great tool but wrong time of year to use it.

Alan
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Follow Up By: Sillydad (WA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 14:05

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 14:05
This is also a good option...

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Make sure you watch the video!
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:11

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:11
Hi Sillydad

Great product Buuuuuuuttttttttt!!!!!!

If i use this it will cause more damage and definitely upset my paving. Not only that the kids will probably give me your username as a new nickname.

Alan
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:25

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:25
Nothing wrong with a little over kill -- the only problem i see is the use of it during high fire danger -- last thing you need on your property is a bunch of 'flaming' bunnies :)

but then again .. a massive bush fire will fix most of your vermin prob

May i ask how much you got your train carriage for -- i am looking at that option as a guest house on our property


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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:33

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:33
Ozboc

It came with the house and we turned it into a bedroom for stepson a few years ago.

It was an old WA Gov Railway wheat van, back in the early 80's they got rid of hundreds, lots of farms have them for sheds. From memory they wanted a couple of thousand baclk then

We are thinking of getting rid of it, but as it has been there for so long and trees grow, landscaping chnages etc it will cost a fortune in craneage to get it out.

Alan
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 20:04

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 20:04
HI , thanks Alan for your reply .... there is a guy in penrith ( sydney ) that sells them and transports them - just wanted to get a ball park figure to see if its a viable idea for the property as it could also be a good bed / breakfast for weekend stayers in Bega valley that do not want to camp but would rather a nice property with trees - river frontage and so forth ...

shall investigate further

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Reply By: Dr Hook - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:47

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:47
We used to block off all but one burrow exit, then pour a few drops of lavacide on a pinecone, roll it into the burrow and block off the mouth with a few shovel-fulls of dirt.
No more rabbits. No need for expensive fogging equipment to pump it into the burrow.... Not as dangerous as a ferret bite. No mess and (so long as you are careful and don't intend to grow vegies there next week) minimal risk.

A lot of farmers have probably still got a bottle hidden away in their Chemicals shed, from pre-Calici virus days.
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Reply By: Member - Scoot (SA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:58

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:58
There is a tablet, toxic gas type poison. The guy next door was telling me about it.

But you may have a problem if you can't block of all the burrow exits.

He was telling me he just blocks of all exits bar one cuts a small hole in a orange pushes the tablet into the orange and throws it down the burrow and fills it in quickly and the moisture in the orange starts a smoky gas reaction and the whole warren is poisoned and buried.

Cheers Scoot . :-(
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Follow Up By: Member - daz (SA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 14:48

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 14:48
phostoxin

But at rural merchandise sores Such as Elders or CRT

Daz
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:27

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:27
I think they stopped using zyclon B in about 1942- 43

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Reply By: Moose - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 14:58

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 14:58
http://www.malleefutures.org.au/files/MMLAP-BioPlan_G_Appendices_2006-12-18.pdf

Go to above and work your way down to rabbit control - lists all your options.

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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:15

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:15
Thanks

It looks like my options will be poison baits, thats a great document as well especially about the weeds erradication.

Alan

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Follow Up By: Moose - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:24

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:24
Good luck Alan.
BTW - better get to them quick before the problem grows!
I've got a property I go rabbit shooting on, a few hundred acres only. He's been poisoning, shooting, ripping etc for yonks. Those things just slow them down for a bit and then they're back as strong as ever. I guess the fact that the neighbours are also infested doesn't help.
But your plague is minor so if you hit them hard once with a good dose of poison you should be rabbit free for a while. Until the next wandering bunny finds the place and decides to call it home!
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Follow Up By: Dasher Des - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:52

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:52
Moose, are you from the mallee area of SA? Lameroo in particular.
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Follow Up By: Moose - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:55

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:55
No Des - not within a bulls roar of SA.
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Follow Up By: Dasher Des - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:57

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:57
OK Thanks Moose. The roaring bull, I take it that it isn't a Mallee Bull then. LOL
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Reply By: Dasher Des - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:50

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:50
Every night for the next 5 nights, you put a couple of Toasted ham and cheese sandwiches out by the area that the rabbits are a problem. Then for the next 3 nights, you put out beef and tomato toasted sandwiches. It's guaranteed to knock them off. The technical name for this type of extermination is called Mixemytoaties.
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Follow Up By: Moose - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:57

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 16:57
That's pretty crook - but still better than most of what passes for Friday Funnies on this site.
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 17:11

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 17:11
Is that before i cover the bush nearby with ham,

so i can hambush them.
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:28

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:28
LMAO - and if that does not kill them the cholesterol will !


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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 18:53

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 18:53
Gday,
Can you see the burrows and if so how close to them can you get?

Cheers
Hairy
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:23

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 19:23
Hairy

I can see diggings but no actual opennings. At a push i can get reach with my hand.

Alan
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 22:15

Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 22:15
Alan,
The way we used to bait them on the Station years ago was using Phostoxin as someone earlier said,
We used to wrap two pellets up in toilet paper and stick them in the end of a piece of 3/4 poly pipe about 4 foot long. turn the pipe around and stick it down the hole pellet end first.
If you can get near the hole, fill it in leaving a bit of poly hanging out of the ground.
Do this to as many holes you can get to and try to fill the rest in.
Once they are all loaded, squirt a bit of water down the poly and poke a length of 1/2 inch poly down the 3/4 to push the pellets down the hole and pull the two pieces out......bye bye bunny.
Hold your breath and get out....dont forget to shower before the dinner bell or you might get drilled by the cook!

Cheers
Hairy

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 22:00

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 22:00
Bring your bunnies up here, our snakes love em..

snake snack

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Reply By: Alan S (WA) - Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 22:01

Monday, Jan 18, 2010 at 22:01
Lead Poisioning just worked again. Two down to High Speed Lead Injection. There is still at least one out there, Got a tub of poisen oats now so we will try that as well.

Alan
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Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:41
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Reply By: Member - Richard H ( Far Weste - Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 09:40

Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 09:40
Bunnies, I've trapped and shot heaps, ate that many, every way known to man except raw. Now to buy one it costs about $18, and they are not the wild variety & are bloody tasteless.

If you don't live in suburbia, try shooting them with a .22 rifle. Rabbits will emerge from their burrows in the early morning and evening, and that's when you get 'em.

A feed of 'underground mutton' should entice someone with a rifle around if you don't have one. Of course, that's if you can use a rifle where you live.

Another option is hire a possum trap, place some feed therein, and you will trap the blighters, then cook & eat 'em.

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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:22

Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:22
I am curious to try this - i have rabbits on the property and from the looks of them they look very healthy ( from a distance )

what are some things to look for in a rabbit to make it safe for eating --

and as far as food preparation goes - what's your method

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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Wednesday, Jan 20, 2010 at 17:47

Wednesday, Jan 20, 2010 at 17:47
Ozboc ,years ago when the rabbittoh came round door to door in Albury and sold them for 2 shillings a pair ,Mum would always soak them overnight in milk , after draining would cook them same as whole chicken or break them down to pieces and cook. Was a rumour back when Albury got its 1st Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet that every 2nd piece was in fact rabbit ,lol.
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Wednesday, Jan 20, 2010 at 21:28

Wednesday, Jan 20, 2010 at 21:28
Ozboc

The olbvious thing to look for is Mixo, the eyes of the rabbit will look strange because it makes them go blind. It has been a while since i have seen one so i cant recal what it looks like, but you will know it when you see it.

The other one is hidatis(?) which you can only see when you gut them, it is a spotting on the either the liver or kidney. Again it s been a while.

I am not sure about calici if there is any issues with eating an infected one and how to identify one.

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