What is the best portable hot water option?
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 15:05
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Member - Jason B (NSW)
Hey guys
I am after advice as to what is the best portable hot water system, what do you use and do you recommend it?
I have used both the Glind and Power Shower under bonnet heat exchanger type previously and have found them good. I don't have one fitted to the vehicle at present but am considering getting another, but i want to consider all options before investing in another. I have also used various solar showers.
I have just purchase a CT so was wondering how others have done it. Are the portable gas type (Coleman, companion etc) any good?
Its for family of 4, the kids are 2 and 6 years for quick showers etc.
Regards
Reply By: Kanga1 - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 16:01
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 16:01
Hi Jason, we use about a 12 litre pot with lid and a 12 volt shower pump, make the water hot as you like it on the cooker or fire, and can
cook Mud crabs or Cherabin/Yabbies as
well, everything fits in the pot including another gas burner/welding gloves etc, works for us. Cheers, Kanga.
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Follow Up By: Member - Vince B (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 21:45
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 21:45
Hi Kanga.
I previously used a heat exchanger set up for the shower but I now use your method.Works great.
Cheers.
Vince
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 16:10
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 16:10
A kettle on the stove.
A 9L plastic bucket with a female QC near the bottom topped up with cold water and the kettle full of hot.
1M of hose with QCs and a garden rose (with shut-off).
Stand the bucket on the roof.
Cost nothing, always the right temperature, uses minimum gas, bucket has other uses, takes minimal space.
OR
A built in shower and
toilet and gas HWS...... :-)
Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 Motorhome
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 16:36
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 16:36
You beat me too it Peter
"A kettle on a gas burner". The most economical with gas and water. Bathe from a bowl when
bush camping.
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 17:32
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 17:32
I agree Peter, I actually bought a Coleman HWS but was unhappy with its performance. Now picture yourself all nice and wet, stop the hot water to lather up the soap and then turn back on the water only to get a blast of now cold water to rinse off with!!!
Apparently the flame shuts off - including
the pilot light - if you stop the water flow. Was a waste of ~$400 for me, but luckily I had been assured by the salesman that this wasn't the case when I bought it, so at least they did the right thing and gave me my money back. Have stuck with a kettle, container and a $25 primus 12V shower pump and was much happier.
If you want the best, get a Truma HWS, they store ~14L of hot water in a small SS drum, virtualy the same system you have at
home. But these are built-in systems and are not portable as such. Mainly used in vans and top end camper trailers.
Cheers
Captain
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 18:54
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 18:54
Coleman HWOD doesn't have a pilot light, they use electronic ignition.
We can get 2 showers from 1 bucket of water without turning it off.
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 20:30
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 20:30
Hmm... your testing my memory here, it was some 4 odd years ago, maybe it was a Primus unit? Either way, it had a pilot light that went out when the water was off and end result was cold water or get someone to restart it. I was happy with the kettle and bucket as it took up less room :)
Cheers
Captain
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Follow Up By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 22:52
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 22:52
I have a Primus unit little blue metal box and it can be fiddly.
I find a safe way is to heat water from one container and pump it to another then drop the pump into the heated drum of water and the kids can switch the water on and off by themselves with out fear of scalding or cold showers as this unit could possibly do.
I have also had to change the pump on this unit, So if it plays up again it might be time to look for a different set up but I do like the compact size of the Primus unit which is not like the Coleman or the newer Primus ones
Cheers Michael
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Reply By: Garry H (S Aus) - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 17:37
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 17:37
Hi Jason,
our vote goes with Coleman, bought ours before our last trip to
Birdsville (other than the quick Jaunt to
Bathurst on top the mountain for 4 days), The Coleman is good on the gas and is hot enough to do the dishes, we fill a container with the correct showering temp and use a shower tent with a 12v shower head, no one can use more than their allocation of water this way,
we always boil our water b4 cooking and cuppas with it and the coleman "pre heats" our water for boiling,
hot water on tap makes for happy campers
you won't regret buying one if you do
cheers
Garry
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Follow Up By: Member - Jason B (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 18:02
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 18:02
Thanks for the advice.
Can the Coleman draw water from a bucket or Jerry can or do you need to use the collapsable bag that it comes with? It seems like a good compact unit. Also does the pump in it have enough pressure for a reasonable shower with the rose mounted at the appropriate hight (1.8 - 2m above the unit)
Regards
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Follow Up By: landseka - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 18:27
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 18:27
Hi Jason, we have the Coleman Hot Water On Demand and love it.
We just use a bucket to draw from, never use the collapsible one.
When away from reliable
water supply we do the "wet down & turn off, lather up, scrub then turn on to rinse." Never have a problem of water being too cold when turning back on.
We have a thorough shower using less than 10L each. If
water supply was getting low we would just do the "top & tail" from a bucket.
Cheers Neil
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Reply By: beergutz - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 18:16
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 18:16
coleman by far, have tried boiling kettle - to long , those little $ 20 shower pumps don't last , need car or battery 2 run them.
tried a cheaper ( $ 200 ish ) gas hws from supercheap ,it didnt survive it's
first trip.
got the coleman & pol gas fitting so can use cannister or " big " gas bottle.
i use 20 ltr drum & heat water to desired temp, turn off gas and then use coleman pump , placing shower rose back in bucket between soap on &
rinse.
we use a ensuit type tent -- shower in 1 side chem
toilet in other with zippered dividing door , clothes stay dry & no trying to reach outside for towel
etc.
cheers
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Follow Up By: beergutz - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 18:41
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 18:41
forgot about the glind unit i fitted to the 06 pajero ( ran hoses to the rear )and only used it once as temp was low & could not get it higher , it was running through a sand spear .
will fit glind to new patrol when its ready & run hoses over front guard,might be hotter.
cheers
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Reply By: tg123 - Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 23:34
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2011 at 23:34
Hi Jason!
I've just been through this dilemna myself - considered the Coleman HWOD, the Companion (?) Cube thing, an instant tankless HWS via ebay and even a $3000 (!!!!) Webasto diesel system.
Discounted the Coleman and Companion because I have read literally hundreds of posts and easily half of them are negative. The instant tankless would have been OK except it has no AGA approval which worries me. The Webasto - apparently brilliant, but at those dollars???!!!
We are on a 'simplify' kick at the moment and finally went full circle and decided to stick with the gas cooker and kettle!! No extra to carry, no extra cost, no set up time - in fact it makes you sit back and 'smell the roses' while waiting and after all, isn't that what camping is all about?? By the way, for a shower mix cold water with boiling water in a 4:1 ratio and you'll get a water temp of around 39 degrees - add a bit more or less boiling depending on ambient temp.
Cheers
TG
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Reply By: DOEY- Thursday, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:17
Thursday, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:17
I just installed a Helton Heat exchange to my rodeo yesterday. A bit fiddly trying to mount as there so little space. But once its in, its in. I decided to go a helton based on the fact i have little space to carry a larger heavier HWOD or similar unit and i dont have to worry about carrying extra gas. Solar showers may be ok but not reliable on cold or wet days. Plus i love the fact of no moving parts.
I havent actually tried it in a real shower situation, but i was playing with it yesterday and timing how long it took to heat a 10l bucket of cold water to shower temp.
i went for a quick 5 min drive to get the car to operating temp 80 degrees, hooked the 12v turbo shower pump into a bucket and it took 3 mins (not kidding) to heat the water up to a good shower temp, after 4 mins i could not put my hand in it. It cost $315 from ebay and came with all the fittings and good quality hoses etc.
I will just use it to re-circulate a bucket of water to a good temp and take it away to my shower ensuite.
As you have already used these types you know how simple they are to operate, i had also heard so many disaster stories abut the coleman, but have also heard their customer support is very good, but for me i know as long as my car starts and i have water- i can make it hot!
let us know which way you go.
doey
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Reply By: mattd - Saturday, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:27
Saturday, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:27
Hi Jason,
I also have a camper,
Tambo...
For our family, take 1 12 lt flat bucket, $6.
1 12 volt shower from Jaycar. $29.95. The yellow onewith the
grey bag. Its lasted for about 150 showers so far.
1 $6 kettle (for the stove) from kmart $7
and some gas to heat the water.
Used it alot and it works fine..
Try the cheap option and you may find you will save some money.
Coleman are a great unit, BUT, the water is not hot enough for a cupper.
The kettle triples up for the shower, cupper and dishes.
Hope this helps,
Matt
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Follow Up By: Jarse - Sunday, Jan 30, 2011 at 16:49
Sunday, Jan 30, 2011 at 16:49
Matt, we have a Coleman and as long as you twist & hold the temp knob to the override position, it's scaldingly hot enough for coffee. And I like my coffee hot :-)
John
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