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Hi all,i have been looking at the ultimate camper trailer, but would like some thoughts from anyone who has owned one on what there like compaired to all the others, have they had any problems with them, are they strong enough, do they have any trouble folding them up, it seems like some are easy to put up but not so easy to pack up. are they easy to get in and out of through the night, they look good but is it practible.

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Reply By: Member - Boeing (PER) - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 01:21

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 01:21
Hi Brenton, I think that they have a user group on the net. Ex member Roachie has one plus a few other members. I can't recall ever seeing a bad word about them.

I know it does not help much but if you can check the user group.


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Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 08:09

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 08:09
Hello Brenton
We are one year short of our seventies and packing up is not a problem for us.
Yesterday we retuned from five days at our secret spot on the Styx river in the New England ranges. All wet except for the first two days and bucketed down the other three. No water leaks, warm and comfortable and a full annex up. A long greasy climb out of the deep valley no probs.
We have had ours for over seven years preceeded by two Jayco campers,
Very easy to wash after muddy conditions with no dust inclusion on outback roads.
We have travelled The Simpson Desert, Hay River and the Canning Stock Route, The Canning did the most damage ... four shock absorber bushes !
Many other trips through outback and out of the way places in all states.
Of course the usual maintainance of wheel bearings and brakes which I do myself.
A complete, very easily maintained package with enormous storage capacity and a quality article.
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Reply By: petesgq - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 08:15

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 08:15
Hi, I have got and ultimate could not be happier.

Is it tough enough. bloody hell yes, dragged mine thu 80% of australia's desert, the kimberlys, gulf country and lot more. Has not let us down once.

Totaly dust proof

My wife can set it up her sef with ease and she is 5'4". an 80 year old that could walk a flight of stairs and lift a 10liter buck of water would be capable of setting it up.

Set up takes 8 minutes when my wife and i do it together, that is level and the bed made. if you get the under bed kids room and you have set that up for the kids i would guess add the 5 to 8 minutes. we dont have one as we find the mozzie dome with the mattress and bed rolled as a swag faster and easier.(2 minute for the girls and they are finished before us, the set up the camp chairs out of the nose boot until we finish.)

The only thing i have changed is the fridge as the 3 way was not the best up north, so i went engel fridge same size and upgraded battery and installed a large solar system. I will be changing the leg system to a moded ALKo wind down.
The missus loves the kitchen inisde( nothing extra to set up.)

Ventilation is great. Holds up to the worst storms but a bit noisy but you cant get away from that.

Safari roof.

The king size bed is really comfortable.

Durabilty. just ask roach he has had one of the early models for years and really does a lot of outback travel as well.

Down side; they are expensive

Tows really well.

If have any more questions drop me a line.

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Reply By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 08:46

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 08:46
Brenton,

I think it's pretty clear that most Ultimate owners are very pleased with the camper. We have the 10th one they made - from 1996. It's still going well and you would hardly know that it's now 15 years old. It will go anywhere your car can go.

Message me or other memebrs if you need any more tips.

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Reply By: Member - Ian W1 (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 09:16

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 09:16
Hi Brenton, we're relatively new owners but can only agree with the others...the Ultimate is terrific! We arrived back from our last trip on New Years eve and had to erect the camper the following day because the canvas was damp. It rained for the next 2 weeks solid....we're in Brisbane...and it didn't get a drop of water inside. We had gale force winds and about a metre of rain! It tows extremely easily on the road although we haven't done any real off road stuff yet, we did have to get to low-range gears in the mountains near Bombala in southern NSW. No problems at all. very comfortable but a bit 'squeezy' inside with our two dogs on the floor at night It also rained most days of our 4 week trip, so dogs + 2 people was tight...& that's not a complaint against the Ultimate (lol). We've put in a 2nd battery with a larger Ctek charger and will probably go solar at some stage. The Ulti's not cheap, but worth the dollars.
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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 09:24

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 09:24
There is no doubt that they are an excellent product, but as with every camper there is always a catch!
With the Ultimate you can't leave the bed made up, so if you are tarvelling the bed has to made up every night & unmade every morning, this can get tedious.
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Follow Up By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:25

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:25
Fare Go Shaker
Put the doona into thirds roll it up, put it into a bag then stuff the fitted sheet into the middle of the roll. Takes less than a minute. Zip up the windows, drag the farthest mattress onto the top of the middle one so you can reach it when packing down. Step out of your jarmies (if you wear 'em) jump into your undies and into your day gear ... all that before the billy boils on the inside stove ... tedious ?
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:41

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:41
I think my comments were perfectly 'fair', the OP asked for comments & opinions, I gave one, it wasn't meant as a personal insult to Ultimate owners.
One person's definition of tedious will certainly vary from anothers.
An acquaintance of mine sold an Ultimate for that very reason.
We are all different & the perfect camper hasn't been designed yet, and never will be!
I recently spent almost $60,000 on a camper trailer, & it has small things that annoy me, but you get that.
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Follow Up By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:07

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:07
My appologies Shaker
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Follow Up By: Member - Rob D (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:34

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:34
The Ultimate king size mattress comes in 3 pieces (in effect 3 mattresses), each mattress has its own fitted sheet which is not taken off when you pack up.

To make the bed you simply lift each of the three mattresses off the seat and put them on the bed (30 sec). Over this you throw your doona, that is it.

There is no need to put a fitted sheet over the 3 mattresses which already have a fitted sheet for each. The mattresses are meant to be laid crosswise, not lengthways. When you are in bed there is no perception of cracks in between the mattresses.

Anyone who found this tedious was not doing it properly. I have heard of people spending an inordinate amount of time making the bed, but clearly they were not doing it properly and should have asked someone how to do it.

Once the trailer is level I can unfold it, put the leg braces in place, erect the canvas and make the bed in 4 minutes. I recently timed this without rushing. This time does not include putting up the awnings.

We have been just about everywhere in our Ultimate and love it. I have made a few modifications to reduce the amount of dust that accumulates on the back step and I have added shock cords to assist the folding up.
If you relax at a faster pace you can get more relaxation in for a given time.
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Follow Up By: Member - Magic (VIC) - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:27

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:27
Agree that's it's not perfect, but it's pretty damn close!!
Absolutely over the moon with our Ultimate, have had it for over two years now and can't get away often enough.
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Reply By: usguys07 - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 09:47

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 09:47
Hi Brenton, our family of 5 started off with a cameron offroad camper trailer (fantastic rig, big strong and could take a bit of gear as well) many years ago and towed it throughout the outback during the 6 years we owned it.
After may years of putting this up and down (a lot of canvas) we decided to buy an Ultimate, that was in 2005 (we should have done this 6 years earlier it would have saved my back).
We have had no problems with the camper but have added a second battery and solar panels. We often sleep up to 7 adults utilising the under bed area and the enclosed awning when needed.
We have done quite a few outback/offroad trips in the ulti and it is yet to let us down, strong, roomy and easy to set up.
The wife and I are setting off in May this year for a 3 month trip across the Savanah Way and back home from Broome along the Tanami Track and Simpson desert on our way to sydney. This will be a good run for the Ulti and I don't expect to have any problems.
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Reply By: member - mazcan - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 14:28

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 14:28
hi brenton w
if you google- ultimate camper trailers-- you will see a site that has 15 posts that where discussed on e/o forum dating back from 2009 to 2002 and will no doubt help you decide on purchasing one

google usually refers to all the topics that have been talked about on e/o no mater what the topic is
you just have to use the correct terminolgy when googling
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Reply By: Crackles - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 18:22

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 18:22
I suppose the minor quirks of an Ultimate are having the kitchen/fridge inside the bed area which can be an issue for some with both smell & not being able to access them easily for lunch stops. Dust covering the back step is also an anoying problem of any rear entry camper. Securing items in the large front locker can also be difficult with insufficient internal tie downs. Of course all these can be worked around for what is otherwise a very capable camper that is reasonably easy to setup.
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Reply By: Member - Steve M1 (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 20:19

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 20:19
Hi Brenton

We are very happy with our Ultimate Camper. It is very quick and easy to set up and pack up. They have great re-sale value and excellent after sales service from Ultimates.

It is handy cooking inside when it is raining or the flies are too bad. We have not noticed any cooking odours.

They tow really well and you are only limited by your towing vehicle. We have taken ours on the CSR and the OTT Cape York with no problems.

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Follow Up By: Member - Brenton W (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 23:27

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 23:27
Thanks everyone for all your helpfull advice, now all i have to do is sell my camper and have a nervous breakdown over the price but as you have all said they hold there price, was looking at a kimberly but i think the ulti is the way to go.

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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 00:57

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 00:57
Hi Brenton,

The Ultimate is a good camper, from the top end of the market just like the Kimberly and Camprite. These are, IMHO, the 3 main types of quality campers - a hard floor flipover, a side bed flipover (Ulti) and the gulllwing flipout (Camprite). These 3 styles are really what one needs to choose between.

I reckon the Camprite is the pick for families while the Kimberly and Ultimate styles are best suited for couples (ready to be howled down here :) ) . To me, the biggest difference between the Kimberly and Ulti is the inside kitchen. Some love the inside kitchen for bad weather while others like the convinence of an outside kitchen for roadside stops.

Other things like access to storage areas, issues with folding, getting into/out of bed etc... are all just idiosyncracies of the campers, once you owned any one of them it would be fine as you would find a workaround and it wouldn't be a showstopper.

After having owned a van (inside kitchen) and a Camprite (outside kitchen) all I know is that I MUCH prefer an outside kitchen and it was one of the main factors when deciding to buy my Quantum (has outside kitchen). While its certainly personal preference, the outside kitchen is much more social if you regulalry camp with fellow travellers, never mind the convinience of roadside stops.

So, the choice is not so much is the Ultimate a quality camper (it is!), but whether that style of camper is what you want, there really is a big difference between the inside vs outside designs.

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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 09:10

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 09:10
I have to agree with you Captain.

I have been eyeing the Ultimates off for years and I reckon they are a fantastic unit. Like you, we prefer outside cooking and it is the only thing that puts me off them. I saw a Jurgens van once and it had a great kitchen arrangement which had the fridge, stove, sink, cutlery drawer, etc inside the van but the whole lot was on a slide so could be pulled out in two seconds to become an outside kitchen. Of course another potential dust entry point, but the best of both worlds I thought. The minute Ultimate come up with something similar I will whip the cheque book out.

Having watched people set up their Ultimates a number of times, it really does seem easy. I can remember watching an older couple set up once and the two of them wheeled the thing into position with ease. Watched with some envy as we had a KK at the time and, once it was off the tow ball, moving it around was not a simple prospect.

We now have a soft floor (Tambo) and love it, but I do like the look of the Ultimates.

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Reply By: Member - Rob D (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:14

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:14
I think putting the kitchen outside of the Ulti would be a retro-grade step.
Houses and caravans both have their kitchen inside and people cook outside on a barbecue when they want to.
The Ulti has very good ventilation and having used it for more than 300 nights we have never had any cooking smells on the bedclothes or anything else inside.
Being free of insects is extremely important to us as my wife is allergic to sand fly bites. Being out of the weather is also good.
We have one of those $20 gas stoves (that use a canister) and a barbecue hotplate which we can use for barbecuing meat outside or boiling the kettle at lunch time etc.
We often go on club trips on which trailers are not permitted due to safety reasons, so we have a fridge in the back of the Landcruiser as well as the one in the Ultimate. Getting into the trailer in the middle of a trip has never worried us.
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Reply By: cliffy46 - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 17:18

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 17:18
have a look at a 2nd hand one, there are about 8 for sale on trading post, could be a cheaper option, mark
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Reply By: CSeaJay - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 18:01

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 18:01
As a few have said, it is horses for courses.

With the kitchen, when I was in the market for a camper, I specifically did NOT want the kitchen inside. That put me off the ultimate which is otherwise an excellent camper.

My wife and I cook together, kids around, etc. Can't do that inside specially on a hot day - we are in N Qld. Can't even think of the oil and smell inside after cooking our bacon & egg brekkie..

BUT that is our opinion and our choice. I can understand other people having other opinions, specially on a cold day.

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Follow Up By: cliffy46 - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 20:03

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 20:03
or a wet day
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