Planned trip to Lake Mungo and Alice Springs

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As I am new to 4WD touring with a Toyota Prada (petrol), I am requesting members opinions about the ins and outs of such a trip as mentioned. I am endeavouring to be sensible and cautious with my preparations.
The time of year is from the 2nd week of November to the second week in December. Does anyone have reasons against this idea. I am particularly asking those that have the experience of 4WD in these areas. Your wisdom will be greatly appreciated. I do not intend to blaze trail across the Australian Great Divide or to follow in the tracks of Burke and Wills! The more accessible tracks will do me!
I have spoken to the Ranger at Mungo (a great help) about the expected conditions at that time of year, and will again closer to the trip. Thank you, Stanley
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Reply By: patsproule - Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 06:21

Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 06:21
A Toyota Designer Handbag - hehehe. (It's a Prado :).

How do you intend to get to Alice and where from? Depending on your answer it could be tar all the way.

November / december will be very hot out that way - that would be my biggest turn-off factor.

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Follow Up By: Member - Stanley D - Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 15:35

Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 15:35
Thanks Pat. The heat is not unexpected. Precautions are in preparation. I am using the Prado as more of a backpack than a handbag- 'chuckle!'
regards, Stanley
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Reply By: Michaeljp - Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:39

Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:39
I went to Alice Springs and a few other places in central oz a few Christmas's ago. I was hot, dam hot. But that would be your only concern. Oh and the flies too. I remember sitting in the ute with the air con going at N'Dhala Gorge listening to the local radio and they said it was 44 degrees in Alice.
I went from Noosa across the Plenty Hwy to Alice. Then down to Chambers Pillar, Eastern Mac's, Western Macs out to Gosses Bluff west of Hermansburg, Palm Valley, Ayers Rock and Rainbow Valley then south back to Sydney. I did it in a '96 Hilux 4WD diesel.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stanley D - Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 15:57

Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 15:57
Thanks for the reply Michealjp.
As I replied to Pat. I am prepairing for the heat- have lived in hot climates before so there are no real surprises about the weather or the insects. After Lake Mungo I plan to continue on to the Centre. Your trip sounds very interesting. I may visit some of those spots as well- dependent upon how adventurous I feel at the time. I may be overcautious about remote areas but I do not want to get into trouble out there.
Thanks again for your reply, regards, Stanley
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Reply By: Member - Bytemrk(VIC) - Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 21:51

Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 21:51
G'day Stanley,

As others have said at that time of your it is going to be hot - even though you sound prepared for that, it does also mean a lot less traffic in the more remote areas.

This can be good if you like a bit of peace and quiet, but can work against you if you need some help.

You don't mention in your post how long you are planning on taking for this trip.

There are a bunch of different options to get from Mungo to Alice, ranging from seriously difficult to Tar all the way.

I'd suggest you start looking at a route you like and let post it here..there are some great people here that have certainly helped me planning past trips.

One option you may look at, that would get you off the tar but avoid getting too remote, would be:

Mungo > Broken Hill > Peterborough > Maree > Up the Oodnadatta track to Marla > Then blacktop up to Alice from there.

If you have more time and a happy to get a bit more remote than that you could go around the other way.

My son used the following blog I built to document our last inland trip for his school mates.. There is probably a few things on that you may find handy...

2009 Trip

Some of the contact numbers etc may be out of date as it was a few years ago - so please double check them rather than relying they are still current.

Good luck with it.. I am sure you will have a ball.

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Follow Up By: Member - Stanley D - Friday, Aug 26, 2011 at 04:27

Friday, Aug 26, 2011 at 04:27
Dear Mark.
Thank you for the map and suggestions. I have been a little tardy in thanking you but I am currently on the dreaded night shift rotation so my routines are back to front. I must admit that I really amazed with all the replies I have received for my question.
I appreciate all the hard work you have done with your map. I will certainly use it as my reference, but the weather will actually dictate which way I can travel. I have read your marvellous Blog and it refreshed memories of my trip, a few years ago, to the centre, in a Piper six seater aircraft, from Essendon to Norwood Station, White Cliffs, Birdsville. the Alice and then to the Rock, Coober Pedy, over Lake Eyre; yes it is spectacular from above- at that time the water was the colour of Raspberry and Vanilla ice-cream; then to Lake Mungo, Echuca and back to Essendon; in six days. You had a wonderful experience by 4WD track and lots of tyres. I exposed 26 rolls of film- about 1000 photographs in all- so it is really easy to do. (I should put them into a blog/gallery of my own.)
I am hoping to do the King's Canyon, Palm Valley, etc route this time- weather permitting.
Thank you again,
Regards, Stanley
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Follow Up By: Member - Bytemrk(VIC) - Friday, Aug 26, 2011 at 22:35

Friday, Aug 26, 2011 at 22:35
No drama to the tardiness Stanley... been a while since i was doing nights..but been there done that.... I understand!

As you get your plan in order, I'd recommend discussing them here.... there are many many users here that know far more than me, and I've been put onto some great spots by the helpful folk around here.

At Kings Canyon you have to do the rim walk if you can... the fist big hill is a killer - but if you survive that, the rest is simply awesome.

What ever you do , have a great trip..

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Reply By: S Paul - VIC - Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 23:07

Sunday, Aug 21, 2011 at 23:07
Did this trip in part in 2009 in a Jeep with Camper trailer -- Melbourne to Mungo - Broken Hill - Peterborough - Hawker - Muloorina (Marree) - Oodnadatta track to Kulgera turnoff - up the Sturt to Yulara did Uluru and Olgas then on to Kings Canyon around the (then) Mereenie loop to Alice ..

No problems at anytime except the flies !!


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Reply By: Member - Richard W (NSW) - Monday, Aug 22, 2011 at 06:51

Monday, Aug 22, 2011 at 06:51

As long as you are well prepared with food, fuel, water, recovery, first aid and communications gear you shouldn't have any dramas.

As others have said about the heat.
The latest I have done Central Australia was early/mid October and it got to 42deg at Coober Pedy. But it was dry heat so not too bad.

Have fun.
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