Keeping batteries charged
Submitted: Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:20
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Oldman
Hi,
Just wandering how you can keep batteries charged when you leave the car for awhile or want to top them up.
I have a dual battery set up. I have a Projecta 7 stage battery charger.
Can I just connect the charger to one battery and rely on the isolator to maintain the charge on both or pull them out and set them up in parallel and charge that way
The aux battery is a deep cycle one, the start battery is not.
Also any way to link in wife's car as
well, not as important though :)
Not sure, hope some one can help.
Richard
Reply By: Bushranger1 - Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:14
Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:14
G'day Richard,
My Hilux often sits for months between trips & I just disconnect the cars Negative cable then put my charger on it for about 24 hrs then I move the charger to the second battery & put that on charge for 24hrs. I do not disconnect the Negative cable on this one.
I do this every month so as too keep them in good condition.
I also have portable 130 A/H battery that I do the same way. Basically I treat them all separately as they are all different capacities.
Cheers
Stu
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Reply By: The Bantam - Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:16
Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:16
If your batteries are in good health,and there are no significant drains in the vehicle , you should be able to leave the car alone for at least a month no problems.
However you can simply hook up to the cranking battery and that will charge both batteries.
BUT
some of these modern multistage battery chargers can get confused.....what they all like is a one on one relationship with a single battery that is not being used.
One of
mine for instance will not cope with a battery & a fridge.
If ya want to do tis long term, I would go for a relativly old fashoned regulated power supply type battery charger set to the appropriate voltage.
second car second battery charger.
One of my brothers customers out west on one of the cattle stations, has a
long flat carport where all the vehicles are parked there is a battery charger on a shelf at roof height in front of every
parking position...some of the vehicles wont get driven for weeks, and with so many these days being electricaly dependent, they take no risks.
cheers
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Reply By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:23
Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:23
For not to many dollars you can buy a timer switch & programme it to work once a week for a few hours or what ever you want
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:51
Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:51
Be careful in disconnecting any battery cable in a modern vehicle as you may lose settings in the vehicle management system, radio, etc.
There should not be any need to disconnect battery leads. Just connect the charger (positive lead first in a negatively grounded vehicle) and turn it on.
Also, you may have to charge each battery separately. (No need to pull them out)
Most dual battery isolators require the ignition sensing wire to be active before they will work and swap over to the auxiliary circuit after determining that the primary battery has sufficient charge.
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Reply By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:55
Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:55
Hi Richard,
try the easiest way first:
connect your multi stage charger to the starting battery and let it charge away.
As soon as the battery terminal voltage reaches about 13.2V, the isolation solenoid switch (if you have one) cuts in and connects the aux battery in parallel to the starting battery.
This will cause a spike in the charging current and may cause the charger to terminate charging.
But if it can tolerate this, the charging process continues like normal.
From this point in time on, both batteries are being charged to the same charging end voltage e.g. 14.4V, and after a while the charger switches back to the float voltage of 13.6~13.8V.
If this works, next time you can link in the other vehicle's starting battery by a pair of jumper leads hooked up to the starting battery.
You may want to connect a multimeter across the starting battery and observe the voltage trend.
cheers, Peter
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Reply By: Oldman - Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:58
Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:58
Thanks guys for the very quick responses.
I have a redarc isolator. I am not sure if this will function if ignition off but do see a light in it after I turn it off, at least for a short while.
The reason I ask is that earlier this year I went away for two months, I did not do anything but when I got back the two cars were flat as a tack. The batteries were not new and had to replace them, the aux battery was ok.
So I bought a projecta charger for future travels,.
So to summarize the above it seems like I can just put the charger on the start battery and This will charge both batteries, but will need to test if the isolator will charge aux battery.
With respect to the wifes battery is connect it via jumper cables .
Richard
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Follow Up By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 13:27
Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 13:27
That's correct Richard.
Seeing a red light for a short while after turning off the motor confirms your isolation solenoid switch is voltage controlled thus it'll establish a connection between starting and aux batteries once the starting battery's reached about 13.2V. From then on, both batteries receive charge and hopefully the controller in your charger won't get upset by the current spike caused by the switching action.
cheers, Peter
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Follow Up By: Oldman - Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 14:43
Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 14:43
Thanks Peter. And all for responses.
I will give it a try one day.
Most likely our future travels will be in OZ so will have the car with the dual battery with us but ya never know.
It was real pain coming home to dead batteries, and expensive.
Thanks again,
Richard
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Monday, Nov 28, 2011 at 05:42
Monday, Nov 28, 2011 at 05:42
Hi Richard,
I have my 200 series cruiser's batteries isolated with a Redarc isolator. When I go away I simply hook up my multistage charger (very similair to the Projecta 7 stage) and it keeps both batteries fully charged. The Redarc joins both batteries together very shortly after the charger is connected. My vehicle is currently on charge as I am away again (typing this from Swakopmund, Namibia - Africa) and don't return until some time in December.
Cheers
Captain
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Follow Up By: Oldman - Monday, Nov 28, 2011 at 07:30
Monday, Nov 28, 2011 at 07:30
Does Capatain = Mark from AORC
forum
Richard
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 29, 2011 at 03:06
Tuesday, Nov 29, 2011 at 03:06
Unless there is another silver 200 towing a Q who's owner is currently working in Swakopmund,Namibia, I guess it must be ;)
Cheers Richard
Captain
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Reply By: Member - Tezza Qld - Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 16:36
Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 16:36
Hi
As my vehicle is only used for tours and personal outback trips it spends up to a couple of months per year parked up.
On my battery isolator I connected a fuse block between the cables for both batteries. When hooking up the charger I put a 30 amp fuse in the holder to open the circut so all three batteries receive a charge.
Without the fuse in place only the start battery gets the charge and this saves me connecting the charger to each battery.
I don't know what the Projector charger does. I am currently using a M100
C-Tek , probably the same sort of charger, and that works fine for me.
Cheers Teza
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Reply By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 21:39
Sunday, Nov 27, 2011 at 21:39
Hi,
I keep my boat batteries topped up by this method;
I put a small solar panel, 2w, on the roof and run a lead with a cigarette lighter plug on the end down to the battery. I split the cord into two with two plugs for a double battery setup.
I wire a cord to a cigarette lighter socket and attach the cord to the terminals with the socket outside the battery box (cable tied on). Two for a double battery setup. A wine cork is stuck inside the socket when I am using the boat.
The batteries are hooked up, all day every day I am away with a trickle charge going in.
Both batteries are sealed so no worries with topping up with fluid.
Over the last three years, the batteries have always been ready to start the boat, instruments etc.
I do not disconnect the batteries from the boat wiring.
Should work for a car too and no need to worry about a mains connection while you are away.
This setup also keeps a battery alive at a mates bush
shack for his
toilet light (its away from the house and the sheilas won't walk out in the dark!) Once again a sealed battery. Been there for 4 years, always charged.
Bill
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