Advice on Route from NSW through to South Australia

Submitted: Saturday, Dec 17, 2011 at 19:46
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Hi Guys

I'm looking for a bit of help.
We are taking the troopy on it's maiden voyage (under our ownership) over new years. She is having a shiny new roof top tent put on for the trip and the many trips to come.

Our question is about our route from NSW to Sth Australia.
We will be visiting family in Canberra on Xmas day. We are planning on traveling west through to South Australia. We will have about 2 weeks.

Any ideas on great national parks to visit & great campsites?

We are thinking Canberra - Echucha - Mildura - Adelaide - ? - Broken Hill - Syd

1a. We would rather not stay in Echucha - we would rather a small town or nice campsite nearby? We want to be sleeping in the roof tent the whole way.

1b. Mildura, the idea is to head in that direction and perhaps fill up there. But I'm very interested in having a couple of nights in one of the National Parks. But there are so many to choose from before we cross into SA. Would you recommend Murray Sunset? Wyperfield? Big Desert? Mungo?

We are late 20s early 30s couple. We are looking for remote areas and stunning views. A waterhole or river would be nice too! We're not into being surrounded by loads of screaming families (sorry), but would be happy to have a few campers closeby, or just as happy to be totally on our own. We are not experienced 4WDers (yet). So tracks/parks/places that are ok for our level of experience.

Obvisously its a busy time of year. We'll be staying away from the coast because we assume we haven't a chance in hell of getting a campsite. But we have our fingers crossed that a little in land will be ok. What do you reckon, will our chances be alright?

If anyone could offer any advice on any of these areas we would be very grateful!

Cheers
Gaz
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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Saturday, Dec 17, 2011 at 20:31

Saturday, Dec 17, 2011 at 20:31
We went down that way last year but turned off at Balranald. Toolybuck was a brilliant place to stay as was Ouyen. On the way back you could head up through Tailem Bend and across to Loxton. Have a look through old Loxton town. Then to Mildura and you could go up to Menindee/ Kinchega NP/Broken Hill. Sadly, two weeks will be no where near long enough but thats all we had as well. Hope that helps. Cheers,Bob
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Reply By: MobiCondo - Saturday, Dec 17, 2011 at 20:33

Saturday, Dec 17, 2011 at 20:33
Some ideas to consider Gaz - Mildura - Wentworth - Rufus River / Lock 7 (Camp Area on banks of Murray) - Renmark / Lyrup Flats (Camp Area on banks of the Murray) - North side of River via Overland Corner (Camp areas) in Hotel vicinity maybe a few K away at most, Morgan - Adelaide - Burra - Red Banks Gorge area (Camps) - old Morgan Mail Run regions to Yunta - Broken Hill - such will provide some beautiful terrain, remote camp spots, good dirt roads, wild life etc. and NOT MUCH Traffic ! Just watch out for flood affected areas along the Murray AND sometimes summer storms can close the back roads in a few hours or less in the station country south of Yunta etc.
Cheers - Mobi
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Reply By: Lifetime Member-Heather MG NSW - Saturday, Dec 17, 2011 at 21:30

Saturday, Dec 17, 2011 at 21:30
Hi Gaz,

we stayed in Yanga N Park near Balranald in June on the banks of a river....a lovely place then but I don't know how much water there would be there now, or how busy it might be.
There were new pit toilets. Not sure of other facilities and can't remember whether there was a fee.

Here are a couple of photos I took while we were there

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Reply By: bazz - Saturday, Dec 17, 2011 at 22:50

Saturday, Dec 17, 2011 at 22:50
hi ll, try Rainbow in western Vic, the 2 lakes there are full, its a wheatbelt town , not far from SA border, theres a nice camp spot beside the lake (Lake HindMarsh), rainbow pub is a friendly place, enjoyed my short stay ,cheers Barry
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Sunday, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:09

Sunday, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:09
There are some photos in our blogs of this area that might give you some idea of what you might see. Have a look here

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Val
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Sunday, Dec 18, 2011 at 08:27

Sunday, Dec 18, 2011 at 08:27
Hi Gaz,

When you leave Canberra you might be interested to take the scenic route to Tumut, via the Cotter and Brindabella. Its a formed gravel road but with some steep winding sections, but nothing that you would not be quite comfortable with. From Tumut you could do a short side trip to have a look at Blowering Dam.

Further west there are campsites along the Murrumbidgee and Murray Rivers but they may be busy around Christmas. Lake Mungo is an interesting place but it may to a bit hot depending on the weather. Check access road conditions at Balranald. We went into those western Vic parks a few years ago. We enjoyed Hattah Kulkyne and had a lovely spot right on the river there. The lakes were then dry but would now have plenty of water in them.

WE hope that you have many adventures in your Troopy, they are a great touring vehicle. Just a thought, and a point that you may already have covered - we have had heaps of adventures in our Troopy, but found that we got a lot more enjoyment after we had done a good 4WD course. We thought that having driven him for over 10 years we knew what there was to know - how wrong we were. The training gave us the confidence to safely get to places that we would have deemed off limits before.

Have a wonderful maiden Troopy trip.

Cheers,

Val.
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Reply By: Member - Richard L (VIC) - Sunday, Dec 18, 2011 at 09:24

Sunday, Dec 18, 2011 at 09:24
Hi Gaz

We had a week around Hattah about 2 years ago. Our favourite spot was Lake Albacutya. Had toilets and cooking areas but no people! It was mid winter though not to sure how busy it will be in the summer. There was another site Pink Lakes, they really are pink!!
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Dec 18, 2011 at 23:19

Sunday, Dec 18, 2011 at 23:19
I would suggest that the camps along the Murray will be as full as the coastal ones. In past years we have heard of the bush camps being full of yobbos. You may get some good camping along the Murrumbidgee. There a few new national parks around Balranald.

As far as Mungo goes I think you may be best to ring the rangers there. From Mungo I would suggest the old road to SA north of the Murray from Wentworth.


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Reply By: zenonie - Monday, Dec 19, 2011 at 06:50

Monday, Dec 19, 2011 at 06:50
You could also check out www.outbackbeds.com and stay in the outback with friends! It's a great network you should also be able to pick up one of their touring maps at any inland VIC. cheers zenonie
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Follow Up By: Member - Richard H - West NSW - Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 15:44

Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 15:44
Should you decide to use the Renmark - Wentworth mail Road, which is the one on the northern aside of the Murray there is a number of nice places you can pull off near Rufus River / Lake Victoria. But a word of warning, if it rains stick to the bitumen, as the road will be closed, and even though you have a FWD negotiation of the alluvial mud is next to impossible.

I once ran out of fuel in a Series IIA Landrover coming back to Wentworth from Rufus River, after being caught in a heavy storm.

There's plenty of decent rest areas between Yunta and Broken Hill, and think of Silverton, if you wish to give Broken Hill a good look.Silverton has Penrose Park, cheap, safe bush camping, and the pub is just across the creek.

I would suggest that instead of going back to Canberra along the bitumen, head off through Menindee, Ivanhoe, and Hillston. It's dirt a fair bit of the way, and similar warnings about wet weather, but usually the road is good, and you see country that's off the usual route, and Menindee has lots of places you can camp either on the Darling River or the Lakes.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 18:00

Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 18:00
Gaz,

I think you’re planning a loop – Canberra, then into SA at Mildura, returning through Broken Hill. We are Canberra based and have used both routes.

First a couple of things worth knowing.

1) You WILL have to surrender any fruit and veg you are carrying when you enter SA, so don’t try to carry anything across the border; expect to stock up in SA. There is also a fruit fly exclusion zone starting just west of Rankin Springs – carrying most fruit and veg is banned in the zone, policed by mobile patrols.
2) Bush camping is usually pretty safe and the locals aren’t generally hostile, but the area around Wilcannia is an exception. Don’t plan on stopping by the side of the road there. (We’ve heard of well meaning Elders advising campers to move along rather than risk being confronted by the young bloods during the night.)

As you say, there are lots of great sounding options. If you haven’t seen the Western Plains, following the Sturt Hwy out through Hay is quite an experience. There’s good quiet camping on the southern side of the river at Maude – leave the Hwy at Hay and travel west to Maude and south back to the Hwy. As others have said – avoid attempting to drive on the black soil plains after rain.

Good camping on the river bank at Robinvale. This is often very busy, but a Troopy in 4WD will allow access to the quieter areas beyond where the caravans can go. Mungo NP, north of Mildura/Robinvale is a very special place, and well worth the diversion unless rain has closed the loop road within the park. There is interest in all the national parks along the Murray, but If I had to choose just one, it would be Mungo.

Once in SA, my preference would be to spend a little time in the Flinders and Gawler Ranges rather than simply heading for Adelaide. Good quiet camping for a Troopy in Parachilna Gorge – see for example our Flinders blog here..

From the Flinders it’s a pretty straight forward run to Broken Hill and back east. Silverton, just outside BH is an important arts centre. Good camping by the Pamamaroo Lake weir near Menindee. Suggest bypass Wilcannia by travelling through Ivanhoe. Willandra NP, off the Mossgiel - Hillston road may be a convenient spot to overnight. Provides an interesting insight into life on a big station in the “good old days”. Maybe south to Griffith to see the irrigation area, then east through Rankin Springs on the Mid Western Hwy. Good quiet camping in the State Forest to the SW of Ranking Springs, and a good comfort stop in the town. Down through Temora to join the Hume Hwy near Yass.

Hope that’s some help.

A final thought - you have great flexibility with a Troopy. Suggest don't focus too tightly on destinations. It's what you experience in between them that matters! You can stop anywhere it looks good. Best to stop in time to be fully set up well before dark, not under gum trees (they drop branches!), and out of sight of the road if you prefer your own company.

Cheers

John






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Follow Up By: Gaz W - Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 19:57

Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 19:57
Jese guys i love all this feedback and really appreciate it all.

We will let everone know what we do and we can also be tracked on Facebook at

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We eventually plan to take the old girl over to Africa so we need all the help we can get in learning about 4Wdriving and by the sounds of some of the replies we will get alot of help here.

Cheers and thanks again.

Merry Christmas to all and see you in the New Year.

Gaz (Gareth)

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