New Coopers ST Maxx and ATR3 Comments?

Steve,

That sounds like great prices as over here in WA, they are $380 fitted and i have had the same price from 3 dealers. No one wants to give a better price.

I thought they would be noisier but as to how much??

Hey guys are you talking about the same sized tyres???????
When you teamed up with your life partner did you run him/her around a forum???
You are all sensible adults I assume...... you have so many variants to consider vehicle, weight, style of driving, conditions as in road & climate.
Comparing tyre prices between east & west coast not knowing tyre sizes is a little bit silly putting it mildly.
Make the decision sure ask a few questions along the way, but ultimately its your decision get on with it & live with it..... if your happy with your purchase you will buy another set or you'l get another partner.

Hi Tony.

It's 2012. I wouldn't be surprised if people run their prospective life partners around the forum before they commit to them, now....

For the record, the tyres I'm looking at are 265/75R16, for an 80 series Landcruiser.

I'm not really sure of the Coopers because I've had mixed reviews on them.

Buying tyres is annoying because it's a big commitment and a real PITA if you get it wrong. It's being able to get other people's opinions instead of just hearing the guy that's trying to sell them to you.

Best of luck,

Steve

You can usually buy the Coopers in 6, 8 and 10 ply for the same model tyre. There is a big difference in price and performance between the ply ratings. I learnt that at the Queanbeyan 4wd show last week.
Now to the more important question.....should I have spent the last 100 years with my better half? I'm not sure if we are compatible. :-)

Regarding the price of tyres, it is a very good idea to compare prices Australia wide.
Tony H said about tyre sizes being a factor, yes that is true but the same tyre is available from two sources in Oz.
The higher priced," we will give you warranty, which you probably won't be able to access", Cooper dealers from Cooper Australia sell their 245/75/16 ST MAxx for around $330 in Victoria and other parts of Australia.
Other entities import the exact same tyre and sell it for around $70 less per tyre. They make a good profit and still sell these tyres much cheaper. Probably still no warranty readily available.
The same tyre is sold in USA for the equivalent of $170 Aussie dollars.
The Australian importers whoever they may be but them in USA for much less than $170,eg. bulk buying, this pays for most of the import duty $15Au and most of the shipping costs for a container or two or three.
So in Oz we pay lots more than others in the world to make a few richer and richer.
Yes we are ripped off and to compare prices is essential unless you have plenty of $$$$'s and it doesn't worry you if you are paying TOP DOLLAR +

Exclusive Tyre/TIRE in Yank speak, Importers, import many BIG NAME tyre brands from USA so are creaming the $ from ozzies on lots of similar items .
Goodyear and Goodrich same story.
If you want to take the risk you can import larger tyres eg. 5 x 275/70or65/17 or 18 into Australia and pay the freight and import duty and still save over $500.

Forum people have already done this. It is all very unfair as Aussie importers cream in all areas of trade.
Definitely shop around.

It's 2012. I wouldn't be surprised if people run their prospective life partners around the forum before they commit to them, now....

Response) Well I'm surprised I didnt see your partner name....???

For the record, the tyres I'm looking at are 265/75R16, for an 80 series Landcruiser.

Response) So now we know the tyre size! ...What about vehicle, driving style, conditions, caravan, or trailer????

I'm not really sure of the Coopers because I've had mixed reviews on them.

Response) No argument there!!!!

Buying tyres is annoying because it's a big commitment and a real PITA if you get it wrong. It's being able to get other people's opinions instead of just hearing the guy that's trying to sell them to you.

Response) Read the forums, listen to the salesmen there ALL the same with due respect.. to the few genuine ones out there, make a decision on your valued judgement LIKE you DID with your LIFE partner & live with it... if it doesn't work change it, next time but in the mean time live with your decision

Ross M
Exclusive Tyre(s) I asume you are talking about in QLD (Brisbane area I think are a legitimate importer & RESELLER of Cooper tyres) her in Oz along with 1 or 2 others.
They import & sell & STAND by the product they sell as opposed to those who bring product in through the back door..... low & behold if you have any troubles/warranty claims with your purchase & your on the opposite side of the country or in a different STD code area.

I have NO association with ANY tyre wholesaler or retailer (arent they lucky!)

Well after all that, I'm after some 265/75R16 for a GU Patrol. Some decent offroad, some beach and the rest on the hard stuff. Towing camper trailer most of the time.




As for life partners, its a lot cheaper to change a set of tyre's if i get them wrong and my Patrol wont take half of everything. LMFAO :-)
Do you get good $$$ for used life partners here or do i have to go elsewhere to sell them. Could i get a set of 4 Coopers for 1??? Ifs it sounds too good to be true it normally is.

In Victoria a 265/75/16 ST Maxx will cost you at least$350.
Therefore it seems they would be from a parallel import dealer as discussed above.
I would dispute what Tony H says about Cooper standing by their warranty.
Yes, we know they import and sell tyres tyre but the standing by the claims they make is a highly disputed area.
Many tyre dealers won't have Coopers because of the claim issue not coming to fruition.
If you have a claim and you have ever driven off bitumen and there are some scratches/marks/small cuts or chipping then no warranty is available.
Because most people don't only drive around Coles Carpark then the extra money you pay to get the warranty is totally wasted. Toorak drivers abviously get warranty.
All brands of tyre have some develop bulges and chip but there are a lot of Coopers thrown away because of delamination and bulging with no tyre abuse.
I have seen some ST with 50c sized pieces torn out of the tread by a little 4 cyl diesel. So bad you could see the tyre casing and place the 50c piece onto the casing of the tyre. Never seen this so bad ever before.

Can't see the relevance of life partners in this, Do they have good grippy tread, deep grooves and are black and round with their name stamped on the face??
If you just want to buy this brand of tyre, then buy the cheaper but same tyre, from a tyre seller cos all of us use them away from black smooth bitumen and we don't rely on the warranty because you can't.

JUST NOTICED ON THIS FORUM.
A bloke has just bought 4 BFG KM2 33x12.5x15 from them yesterday! For these tyres they charged US$476.01 freight to an address in Sydney.

He paid for the tyres and the $476.01 freight and saved $300 on what he could buy them for here.
Yes it pays to shop around. Even OS

Lachy,

One thing i have been told by all the places i went for Cooper prices is that the new AT3's are designed to be better in the wet. Im starting to think i may go down the line of AT3's.
I had the ATR's on my Nissan ST-R years back and was very happy with them. I changed to the ST's on the Patrol because i knew it was going to be put into some harder places.
Thanks for the comments

Hi, I have covered 20,000 k's on my ST Maxx tyres on my 100 series Landcruiser, with one trip from Sydney to Mt Ive to Katherine via all the back roads including Ruby Gap and Davenport ranges and then into West and East Arnhem Land and back via outback Qld and then a coastal run at 1770 and over the mtns at Mt Warning (great trip!) and the tyres look hardly worn at all (yes I'm sponsored by Coopers but can show you the photos if you wish) Yes, they are getting noisier but I either turn up the radio or talk to my passenger (novel idea). Also have done 10,000k with another set on my new FJ Cruiser, beach runs and my regular driver training weekends, this set still looks brand new!
When choosing your tyres be careful that you are being quoted on Light Truck construction and not Passenger construction, size does make a difference so always compare exact sizes and be aware of cheap imports purporting to be factory tyres when they are not, if the price seems too good to be true, it probably is.
Vic

Thanks for the reply Rob,
This is the info i am looking for. Someone that has them fitted. Is the noise overpowering or bearable? I dont mind some noise but my neighbour has BFG Muddies i think and i can hear him coming from 2 streets away. I dont want that.
Cheers,
Chris

Hi - that price sounds about right - dearer if away from the coast, though. We have St maxx on our cruiser and went down the strezleki, through the flinders and back up the darling last year and no problems. They are noisier than the ATR's, but not so loud they interfere with talking or listening to the radio. I think we are getting close to 20000km now with them, and very happy.
Cheers,
Jane

Cheers Dalb,

All this info is helping.

Mangey,
Having a quick look in the shop, I thought the new ST Maxx look more like the old STT's. Are you doing tarmac or bush klm's or a bit of both with the new St Maxx?
Thanks for the comments.

Chris

Chris
I am doing a bit of both probably 70% tarmac 30% gravel and dirt roads
Cheers
Mangey

Will,
Speak to your dealer as mine was quite happy to accept Nissan's rotation at 10,000 km. I had an allignment done through the Cooper dealer at 30,000 and 60,000 km. Im just over 90,000 km on my St's at present with only a few thousand left in them. With the warranty, and my experience, i dont think i would change brands just maybe type, between AT3 and ST Maxx.