Simpson - Toilet Paper!!!

Good onya Jeff, nothing more ugly, a shovel and a match all gone.

Jeff, Just returned from the Simpson(6th trip) and always use the matches for the toilet paper. When I see paper floating around I hope its from animals digging up for a looksee and not from thoughtless people not digging holes.
On another subject, I have noted there appears to be a lot more under prepared folks travelling. Do you remember the fellow in the Mitsubishi Starwagon who came to Mt Dare and ask you if he needed to have a radio or Satphone and did you think that his vehicle would do the crossing did he need a Desert Parks Pass??, you said Yes "you do and have you prepared the vehicle for the crossing what about extra fuel etc etc" He just looked at you as if you had two heads and walked off. I saw him a few hours later driving out and noted that he turned north to Alice thankfully, otherwise you would have been doing a fourth recovery.

See ya next year before my 2nd Madigan Line crossing

Jeff

I'm sure a lot of people bury their paper not realising that dingos & other wild
dogs will dig it up. Answer burn it

Good onya Jeff.

If people took time to read the information in the Parks Desert pass pack it also mentioned in there that your should burn your paper afterwards.

Surely its not to much to ask.

And then you get the "strange" looks when you say that you carry a portable loo. This is why we carry one.

See you soon Jeff. Three weeks to departure.

G'day Jeff

You're having way too much fun up there !


All the best

Gazz

Hey seen people at a camp (no names) go off with shovel and paper in hand down a walking track, thinking they may do the right thing. Later on they returned, we went for a walk later in the day AND low and behold they sh** on the track in a little hole they had dug but did not cover. On our return I went over to let them no what I had seen and was told to F*** off and leave the site as they will do something ! They were not young (30-40) and the woman was worst, all I wanted was to let them know that they took a shovel so why not cover it, all said in a convivial manner. We did not leave and I stayed up till the early hours just waiting for trouble, I also thought of getting their S*** and returning it to their camp fire which also they left burning but thought better of it. Got up early and played music ( 60's) loud they got the hint and left. Don't mind a punch up ! in my later years.

Hi Jeff,

Agree its disgusting but it wasn't me or my bride. I dont take any toilet paper, nothing better then roughing it ; ).
I remember seeing a couple of loo papers on my 1st simo trip in the early 90's but I guess with the increased number of people going bush that its gonna increase.

It hard to take when its one place that I feel at home.

Good day all : 1st up , as more and more people are getting out camping this is going to get worse .....and most might be from the cities they may need some educating into the art of bush camping . This will be especially bad when every ones camping in the same place .

The other thing is the paper its self , its said to last for a long time before braking down . so maybe need a quick brake down type paper ....." soluble "

we went to a station stay camp on the coast of W.A recently where they insist on porta a loo !!! but interesting when you go to there dump ( of all unwanted ) , a big hole in the ground .....what a bloody mess ...paper etc going everywhere and only a sort distances to the sea .... I think we all need to start thinking about these things .....

cheers nick

So easy to pack the used paper into a small freezer bag, flatten and seal it - next to no weight to carry and no odour. That goes for the ladies too - if you can't take the tissue back with you, don't use one! Simple isn't it?

Those Nappy Sacks you buy when you have kids to dispose of dirty nappies are very good for camping, disposing of toilet paper and other waste and they're even not bad as mini rubbish bags for the car!

I can't imagine it would be always easy to burn wet toilet paper....remember ladies use it for no1's too.

Ha ha maybe at entry points they should provide plastic bags like the ones they do in public places where you're to pick up dog poo after your pet.....the dog bags are very similar to the Nappy Sacks I'm talking about actually.

One word: "Filthy Pigs" and it covers all ages too...

Jeff,
I think you may have missed the survival side of this.

They leave the paper so it can be used like the breadcrumbs on a GPS.

What you do when you are lost, you stop and sniff each piece of paper. When you smell your scent you know which way to go.

Mate! I lived rough for many years but some of the grubs out there even open my eyes.

Ozrover

I too don't agree with with the way people leave rubbish around, it's not just in the deserts but in rest areas and truck parking bays, it sure don't look good, but in an enviromental way I don't mind the paper, it comes from trees and in a short time will be shredded and with a bit of rain on it it'll go back to the ground from where it came. As for the crap in the heat is dries and crumbles and also returns to the ground, the only problem is ...there seems to be a never ending supply...lol. What I do not like to see left is the plastics and bottles, I have picked up Beer bottles dated 1942/3/4/5 around Mt Bundy and they are still in perfect condition, so to me these bottles will still be there in a 1000 years or more... great for collectors.
On my travels recently I stopped at a parking bay and see a disposable nappy left on the side about 20m from a bin, there's no need for that.


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There are some busy walking routes in US parks where you're required to take in and use a PVC poo tube. And carry your own waste out.

Will happen here too eg. on the High Plains where in winter some ski tourers can't be bothered to dig down beside a tree, and where some replacement huts have been built without a dunny. The spring thaw reveals fluttering brown stips of paper; can be near creeks or aqueducts. Stupid.

Hi Jeff,

We have to agree that it is pretty disgusting the way people leave their personal dump sites and it is done with no regard to the people who follow.
Thursday Rock was one experience we had with lazy people, the mushroom and warning flag were in the middle of the car park with no attempt to even dig a token hole or to cover it.

With the greatest respect to yourself and all the other posters on this thread, we still can't believe that there is the "burn it" view on toilet paper.

Sorry to say that common sense does NOT prevail and some people don't understand the "Safely" aspect either.

There are a number of stories where people have been charged with lighting fires to dispose of their toilet paper, that have caused damage, both in Australia and the USA.

It is being reported that there are more and more places where it is a condition of entry to carry a port-a-loo, although that too has its limitations and short falls.

We agree with Motherhen's comments about bagging it, at the end of the day it is a very very simple way to stop litter. If people are a little queasy about doing this - maybe they should stay at home with their flushing toilet.

FWIW the Nation Council (ANFWDC) and 4WD Victoria do NOT promote the burning of toilet paper, where other high profile 4WDing people do and possibly it is time for the Parks Desert pass pack to change its information too.

Regards,
Wayne & Sally.

Hi Jeff.

Just completed another Hay river trip.
I was disappointed at the state of the QAA line. Worst I have seen it.
For the first time on the Hay the toilet paper and general rubbish was everywhere.
That part of the desert "was" my favourite place to travel.

regards

I see this behaviour far too frequently in the bush.

There are a lot of human pigs around (apologies to real pigs) and, no doubt, many of them will be reading this forum and thread - do you crap on your lawn? When you go to a friends BBQ do you crap in their lounge room? I suspect you do not.

In which case bury your waste and burn or take home your toilet paper because the majority of us who have respect for ourselves and others despise your habits and probably you too.

You are a disgrace.

Hi all,
Dont you just love it!
Just back from 9540k of out back travel.
Not only did we see mass evidence of toilet paper but a worrying new trend.
The new toilet paper is "WET ONES" with a half life of 10000 years.
Guy

Yes well said all, just back from the CSR that to has a LOO problem with the added threat of SPINIFEX fires started from flying toilet paper!(which was upwind of a tour group in swags!) They have designed rubbish bags to fit over your 4wd's spare tyre recon they should add a smaller 1 on the bottom for the loo bits. cheers

Hi,Jeff,can only agree with you on toilet paper as 6 of us in 3 vehicles all commented on the same thing while crossing the simpson couple weeks ago,also much thanks to staff for very informative info before our crossing(we was there to get fuel the only time you ran out but it was friday the 13 haha),made the trip with no problems and enjoyed it lots,thanks again,peter.