Exhaust jack on Sand

Submitted: Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 10:41
ThreadID: 27398 Views:2400 Replies:11 FollowUps:11
This Thread has been Archived
Hi All,
Can someone help me with regards to getting an Exhaust Jack?
I’m just after some Info Good, Bad or Ugly! I do a fair bit of beach driving and now that the Paj has gotten a little taller with 255/85r16’s the Std Bottle Jack maxes out before it even looks like lifting the Paj off the Ground. Are they Strong and how do they fair when you have to jack up the 4x4 under hot engine components?

Thanks in Advance

Matt
Back Expand Un-Read 0 Moderator

Reply By: gramps - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:05

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:05
Matt,

I don't have one but it seems fair to say avoid hot and pointy bits. I understand they make quite an impressive BANG if you don't exercise due care :)
AnswerID: 135391

Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:16

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:16
Matt,

I have one and can certainly recommend them.

I usually place the jack underneath the body-side of the vehicle and lift the whole lot up. The height obtained will easily lift the wheels off the deck so that you can get underneath.

I also include a couple of squares of carpet top & bottom to provide additional mechanical protection.

So far, no problems. Easy As.
Bill


I'm diagonally parked in a parallel Universe!

Member
My Profile  My Blog  My Position  Send Message

AnswerID: 135392

Follow Up By: Matt (W.A.) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:18

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:18
Cheers Sand Man,
Any Particular Brand I should look for?

Matt
0
FollowupID: 389336

Follow Up By: Redback - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:20

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:20
I have one and as Sandman has said, make sure it is the 4ton one.
0
FollowupID: 389337

Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:40

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:40
Matt,

We use the exhaust jack on our driver training course. We lift a vehicle so that one or more wheels are off the ground. The vehicles that we jack up are different every time, so they do work on all vehicles and we do use the exhaust jack on the sand.
A few things to keep in mind when using the exhaust jack.
The exhaust pipe has to be good with no leaks.
A diesel motor is better than a petrol only because there is more exhaust pressure in a diesel.
A small petrol engine will need the revs kept up to supply the pressure to inflate the bag.
If the exhaust is not good or the motor can not be started on the stuck vehicle you can always use another vehicle.
Find a good lifting spot on your vehicle, at home in the driveway before you have to use the jack is best.
The best spot is one that is close to the wheel that has to be raised, that has a cross member on the chassis. The gear box cross member is a good one for the front.
On the back you could use the fuel tank or side steps.
With the jack they supply mats to protect the bag, they are alright but we have found carpet squares even better. They are thicker and protect the bag from sharp objects and heat and when not in use can be stored flat in the vehicle.
To get the bag to go up straight we first inflate the bag then squash it down flat, then place it under the vehicle, that way it should go up straight.
You will at least 2 people to use the jack, one to watch the bag and to make sure it goes up straight, and the other person to hold the hose on the end of the exhaust. This is not the job to have.
It might take a couple of goes to get it right, so it might pay to practise at home first.
The exhaust are rated to lift 4t but when you think of it, it is only lifting one corner and not the full weight of the vehicle.
Avoid using the large bag on a Suzuki as they might flip it on its side when fully inflated.

Wayne
AnswerID: 135394

Follow Up By: Matt (W.A.) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:26

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:26
Thanks Wayne for the Perfect Reply,
Like I asked Sand Man do you have any Brand Preference?

Matt
0
FollowupID: 389340

Follow Up By: Dean (SA) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:42

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:42
Matt,
I have an ARB exhaust jack. I think any off the 3 main ones are the same other than colour.
Mine has been in the bag for 5 years, still hasnt been used yet other than in the drive, must be a paj thing (touch wood).
Dean
0
FollowupID: 389341

Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:53

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 12:53
Matt,

We have used the Bush Ranger brand, and even though we did manage to put a hole in it once, after patching it we are still using it.

Wayne
0
FollowupID: 389344

Follow Up By: Matt (W.A.) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 14:53

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 14:53
Thanks Dean,
I too havent had to use a Jack in Anger! Touch wood but I'd like to be prepared if it happens....

Matt
0
FollowupID: 389362

Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 20:44

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 20:44
Quote: Wayne (NSW)

"Avoid using the large bag on a Suzuki as they might flip it on its side when fully inflated. "

ROTFLMAO...You don't need a jack to do that....
0
FollowupID: 389394

Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:41

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:41
Is your truck a turbo deisel?
The driver training fraternity say that you cannot use one with a turbo as impeller damage can occur, when the pressure is on.
Just what I have been told, no experience with any damage.

Cheers Pesty
AnswerID: 135398

Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:48

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 11:48
Pesty,
So far, and we have been doing the demos for at least 10 years, we have not experienced any problems with lifting a vehicle with a turbo fitted.
The pressure from the exhaust is only used for a short time to inflate the bag and then the one way vaule holds the pressure in the bag.

Wayne
0
FollowupID: 389338

Follow Up By: vitara - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 13:16

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 13:16
Hi there Wayne, interested in doing a 4wd course and my wife, where in sydney do you run these and also do you have a web site. Regards Vitara
0
FollowupID: 389350

Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 13:57

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 13:57
Vitara,

The company is Great Divide Tours, www.4wd.net.au.
We have our own land at Braidwood which has been set up just for driver training. Tracks have been made to various degree of difficulty to cater for all types of vehicles.
The course is set up for 2 drivers and is Nationally Recognised.

Wayne
0
FollowupID: 389356

Reply By: Kiwi Kia - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 16:20

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 16:20
The first exhaust jack that I had was tall with a very narrow base that made it very unstable when inflated - in fact it was Bloody dangerous. Some guy wanted to buy it even when I showed him what it was like so I sold it and purchased a different brand. That original brand has now changed the dimensions of the bag and the new model is fine. I mention my experience just in case you decide to buy second hand. Also remember not to get under ANY vehicle when you have it jacked up !
AnswerID: 135429

Reply By: D-Jack - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 18:15

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 18:15
TJM sell one now, which is a bit more expensive, but has all the reinforcements and protection so that no further protection is needed (so they say) Might be worth investigating. (I think it has a thick rubber protection top where it contacts the vehicle, and bottom where it sits on the ground, and makes it much more stable because it is more flat than round)

D-Jack
AnswerID: 135449

Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 22:29

Thursday, Oct 20, 2005 at 22:29
I've got the ARB one. For about $100 more, you can get one that can be used with an air compressor as well as the exhaust. Only real advantage is that one person can use it if necessary. As said before, you need 2 people to use the exhaust.

Another advantage is if you damage the exhaust while getting bogged, you can still use it.

Is it worth the extra $100. Dunno, but I got one anyway. Haven't tried it with the compressor yet.
AnswerID: 135496

Reply By: Matt (W.A.) - Friday, Oct 21, 2005 at 06:59

Friday, Oct 21, 2005 at 06:59
Thanks everyone for all the replys it looks like their a go-a I’ll check the ARB and Bushranger ones out.
Thanks again.

Matt
AnswerID: 135513

Reply By: brian - Friday, Oct 21, 2005 at 07:39

Friday, Oct 21, 2005 at 07:39
just one minor point if youy tail pipe end is cut at an anglethe cone on the hose may not seal sufficiently to provide enough pressure to lift the vehicle,i squared mine with a hacksaw it works well now..
AnswerID: 135514

Reply By: johnsy1 - Friday, Oct 21, 2005 at 12:10

Friday, Oct 21, 2005 at 12:10
There's no need to cut the end of the exhaust on a patrol anyway simply push the cone on then down and it will seal. Unless you need the whole side of the vehicle off the ground it's safer to use the bag on the side under the diff particulary in mud .And my last tip is if you have those heavy floor mats they work a treat as protectors saves on weight. johnsie
AnswerID: 135562

Reply By: Bitsumishin - Mike (WA) - Friday, Oct 21, 2005 at 20:00

Friday, Oct 21, 2005 at 20:00
I imagine the exhaust jacks are good but I doubt they could be used in all cases and if the jack you have doesn't get the wheels off the ground I would be replacing that. truck wreckers might be a good starting point
AnswerID: 135651

Follow Up By: Matt (W.A.) - Saturday, Oct 22, 2005 at 14:57

Saturday, Oct 22, 2005 at 14:57
Mike,
Good idea i'll look into that as well.

Matt
0
FollowupID: 389626

Sponsored Links

Popular Products (9)