So diesel has hit the $1.40??

David
What's the price of diesel over your side of the paddock??

About this much WA Fuel Prices

Not me I won't pick my diesel cruiser up until hopefully after the election LOL

Not that ULP is cheap either.

Cheers Kev

ULP is 1.19 in Adelaide and Diesel up to 141.9. Huge difference. I miss my dual fuel patrol. Still 52c.

Kev.
You need to head back north to take advantage of the Qld govt rebate.
However at times I have noticed that Sydney fuel is cheaper tahn in brissy.
Go figure that one out!!.
Regards.
Vince

Be there early January, At this stage the boss and the kids will free load at the outlaws and I've got a short term contract in Roma (4 weeks).

But no matter what the price of fuel is we still need to pay it.

Cheers Kev

Watch what happens if Mr Rudd gets in.

Kev is okay, as he his first name is the same as "Kevin Bloody Wilson"
Plus he is a shooter so he has to be good. Thanks to Howards Gun laws, and a buy back that only helped drugos and robbers get rich, and bash little old ladies for $1.00.

Yep, Kev isn't the one who destroyed the manufacturing industry in Australia with all this free trade and tarrif reduction.

Diesel was $1.26 here in Mackay today. $1.40 is what I would pay 200km west of Mackay at a roadhouse that is renowned to rip off various travellers.

Probably not what you wanted to hear.

Regards
David

Labour has not objected to any free trade or tariff changes either.

Don't forget that Mr Rudd is not called the "Yes" man for nothing!!

John mate, i have been to 3 Rallies in Adelaide run by the ALP and ACTU which were aimed at protesting both free trade and tarrif changes. Our Company even gave us the day off and organized buses to the rallies. So seeing that they organized it, and the SA ALP premier spoke at them i would have to say that yes they have objected.

The trouble with little Johnny is that he is so far up mr Bush's behind he can't see the bowsers to see what price Mr Bush is telling him to sell fuel for.
Even though it belongs to Iraq

Brew34.5,

Three rallies run by the ALP and ACTU to protest free trade and tariff changes in SA?
Could you enlighten people like me, because I honestly believe that the ALP and ACTU wont change our lives dramatically.

I would not for one minute believe that an ALP govt would give any consideration to dropping the taxes on say diesel or petrol.
If they did it would be the "Mother of all Tampa's" and ensure their safe journey to the corridors of power.
JimDi

Where did i state anything about dropping prices on diesel or petrol??? My comments were about the manufacturing industries decline in Australia due to tarrif reductions and free trade agreements. If you know nothing on the subject stfu.

>>Watch what happens if Mr Rudd gets in. Life will be back to normal, go the worker...LOL

Sorry John.. :-)

Brew,
So enlighten me then. I am a swinging voter. Tell me what the ALP and the ACTU are going to change re tariffs and the manufacturing industry. Taxes etc.

By the way telling me to STFC up is exactly what made me resign from the ALP and the unions. And before you say it I was full time with a union many years ago.

I do not keep up these days, granted, but what are the ALP and the ACTU going to do exactly with free trade and the manufacturing industry. Bring it all back onshore. I think not.
JimDi

Yes but they weren't "Real" rallies on Labour's behalf were they???
Labour only appeared at the rally to try and maintain the union vote.
Besides wasn't it Rudd who said during APEC that free trade was an important factor in international relations particularly with China????

Its a bit like the GST, Labour objected until the cows came home then when it was enacted promptly rolled over and said "Oh well its here now so we won't change it"
They have objected to policies of the Lib's purely for the sake of trying to appear as an effective opposition and then when the matter is enacted and in place they do nothing because they wanted to do the same but never had the guts to undertake major reform in this country when they were in power.

Lets look at "Work Choices" and the way in which Labour has set up its policy, First it was "Object" and claim if elected "We will remove the legislation" to now its well "Its a bit hard to do that so we think it should be done over the next 5 years or so" and promptly told the ACTU to shut up and lump it.

I like the latest claim "Kyoto at any cost!!" thats a good one to try for a last ditch attempt to gather the dumb green vote.

Mr Rudd has no real policy to offer as an alternate on just about any matter and if he does its so close to the Lib's to be almost the same.

Why fix it if it ain't broke??

Sorry Richard :-)

Follow the posts mate. John (Vic) Stated "Labour has not objected to any free trade or tariff changes either."
All i was doing was disagreeing with this statement with facts. Whats done is done and no they can't bring it back onshore. But the Libs should be held accountable. End of Spiel.

Yes John
We know that, that's the way the Lib. made there policy's. No turning back (never, never, ever) when a law is changed it is very hard to turn it around with out cost someone lots of money and hart ache, so you just have to try and make it easier for the people it's hearting... You have to try... :-)

Richard

The original comment by Chris appears to have been made without taking into account the facts….

‘Sombody has to pay for Howards election advertising. Guess who it is?’ And a later comment… ‘The trouble with little Johnny is that he is so far up mr Bush's behind he can't see the bowsers to see what price Mr Bush is telling him to sell fuel for.
Even though it belongs to Iraq’.

The fact (versus emotional outpourings) is that the revenue the government generates from its fuel excise is based on the volume not the price. Therefore, a higher fuel price means nothing in term of revenue generated for the government by the fuel excise. Now call me gullible, but I reckon that regardless of who has the baton I would think that they would like to see lower fuel prices for the electorate especially given that a higher price at the bowsers does not mean more revenue. Most pollies work on the theory that it is best to keep the punters as happy as you can…..especially if you want to be re-elected.

But Chris, are you telling us that if Labour gets to hold the baton after the election that they will be able to influence the price of fuel lower? If so, just how will they achieve this? In fact, I’d go as far as to say that you would be a person that they would love to have on board the front bench team (some would say they need a couple of smart ones!), because not one of them so far (including the current government) have any influence over the price of oil. Now controlling the price of oil, that would be a holy grail if ever you could find it, especially if you are a pollie.

Labour could reduce the excise on petroleum products; this is the only thing that they can influence in terms of the price inputs that make up the total cost at the bowsers. Are you saying that they are going to do this? That would be a big funding hole to fill.

Why do you have to always be different. Huh!

Everybody else gets their KY from the supermarket in 150gm tubes.

Must be one hell of a party at your place, or where ever it is that you cart that 44 of KY to.

what, your the one who told me to save bux and buy in bulk! We went 1/2's in the first load.. I'll leave it there.

Oooo-aaaah! 'Bruth'


Liar, Liar - pants are on fire.

And I thought I could spin the bullchit. Man! you have beaten me hands down.

I still haven't seen my half eiither?????

I knew yo would try and talk your way out of it. Why the denial.... you know what they say....

and other 1/2? she should be in the kitchen cooking dinner like all good other 1/2s... :P

Maaaaaaaaate!

You are on fire today.

There is no way I am ever going to admit on here that I use half a 44 of KY a fortnight.

B l o o d y hell man, I would be inundated by all the of 35year olds.

How would I explain that to the oter half, even if she was in the kitchen doing the dishes. (ROFLMAO)

Now for the serious stuff:

Are you coming to the Pyrenees with us all in November.

Closer and a better option I think than Murray-Sunset.

Also the camping area is a huge mother, flat green meadow with a toilet block (Flush).

K

Toilet block????? WTF.. after JohnR has been in there in his budgie smugglers, I dont forkin thing so!

Old fart in my bike club used to polish his bike with KY! The water beaded off it awesome, but it was a $30k BMW... fool of a man!

Hey Footloose,
Governments dont have their hand in our pocket,dear oh dear. They are just trying to do a tough job. Ask any one of them and they will tell you someone has to make the hard decisions.

Snouts in the trough !!! Wellll maybe. But thats another story.

Now if we could all just get the same super system going as the pollies have....nah would not work,too many snouts not enough troughs.
JimDi

Well I guess we have to vote someone back in...otherwise we get fined.
But I suspect we get the Govt we deserve, sadly.
Most of us are hip pocket voters, if the mouse society promised free diesel we'd vote em in.

I don't care how people vote, but any party that makes the kind of earthquake changes in things thet we've seen without mentioning em at election time....and where did democracy go ? How can it be a democracy when both houses are controlled by one party, no matter what their colour ?

No easy way, is there. I'll just have to stop whinging and work harder to pay the increased prices :((

Yep, head down bum up. When I first heard that saying I laughed, not any more. But there is light at the end. As from January next year I shall take the off road van and the 80 series, find a camp site(s),light a fire and look at the stars.
Geez where's my beer
JimDi

>> and all the diesel we use comes from overseas

Gee the blokes at the diesel plant at Kurnell will be shattered they dont have a job anymore.

"The crude we produce here does not produce diesel".......

(somebody musta forgot to tell Santos about this;-))

I am reliably informed that at least some of the crude we produce here is near enough to pure diesel as it comes out of the ground..
No2 son works on the Jackson oilfield, and he assures me that the crude produced there (after the water is separated) will run a diesel engine no problems at all.. Indeed, I'm sure he told me (he's on site atm, so I can't confirm) that at least a couple of the wells there are using the oil as it comes out of the ground to run the engines that drive the pumps...
I've been told that this was also the case at Moonie & Roma...

We use more ULP

mmmnnnn trucks shipping trains civil works mines oh & diesel 4wds

LOL

Sorry - I should have been clearer. I have no idea what the total diesel vs ULP sales are in Australia. I meant the local servo down the road sells less diesel than ULP. I live in suburban Sydney.

Here's a quote from Caltex:
"Another factor is that in the Australian retail market, diesel prices are not discounted to the same extent as petrol prices. Much less diesel is sold at retail and therefore service station dealers concentrate on petrol discounting to drive overall fuel sales volumes and associated shop sales."

Taken from here:
http://www.caltex.com.au/pricing_pla.asp

Pete

blue one - you are quite correct.

Here is a quote from the Australian Institute of Petroluem:
"Only around 25% of the diesel used in Australia is sold through retail outlets and much of that is sold to account customers. Most diesel is sold in bulk to commercial/industrial customers (eg. mining and transport companies) on long term contract."

Quoted from:
Site Link

Pete

Almost need to set up a community syndicate to purchase wholesale, a bit like the community banks etc, buy in bulk and distribute.

Shell in Salisbury East is 141.9 and my local Liberty is 135.9. Not worth using the docket at Shell. Is the price still the same at keswick?

Brew34.5

No Keswick went up at least a week ago its now $1.3xx I cannot recall the exact amount. But I have noticed over the years that this station gives us the lowest prices at various times.

$2.25/l at Forrset last week, but hay it was worth paying it.. :-)

So what happened?

I hope that price is not per litre?

Andrew

Go Lucy......the price of oil will be USD 100 per barrel in times ahead....hedge your fuel costs now and takes Lucy's lead

I'll tell u some prices on the Hume on the way to shtiney tomorrow...