Sunday History Photo, NSW / SA

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 02:15
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I remember seeing one of these types of buses passing by my old home on the Gorge Rd Athelstone,SA around the years 1948/53, It was a Conventional Cab so could have been the one in the photo at the bottom,
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This vehicle is one of 123 semi-trailer type buses built and operated in Australia between 1939 and 1984. Most were constructed as specialised or one-off units. Only Motor Body Assemblers (M.B.A.) of Camperdown, N.S.W was successful in obtaining sufficient orders to warrant a standardised approach to the manufacture of the bodies.
Semi-trailer buses were a superb alternative, high capacity people mover, which became popular during the second world war when double deck chassis could not be obtained from Britain. While semi-trailers trucks went on to become highly developed for freight transport, it was the walk-through "bendy" articulated bus that subsequently became the passenger carrying alternative.
The Semi-Trailer bus body is of timber frame construction and was built by Parramatta Bus Co., Northmead, N.S.W. in December 1947. An A.E.C. Matador was the original prime mover used to pull the trailer body. The complete semi-trailer bus was used on the firm's services from Parramatta to 'The Hills' district. The combination was registered m/o.352. It was deregistered in December 1952 and sold to George Clements, proprietor of Nambucca Heads Bus Service in 1954. It was soon resold to Mr Sinclair a Dundas operator. After extensive overhaul, it was reregistered m/o.002 in 1956. Mr Clements bought the unit again in 1957 and it became MO.4466, fleet No.1. In January 1962 it was sold with the company to Pell's Nambucca Bus Service. A Leyland Comet prime mover was substituted in 1972. When withdrawn in 1977, it was the last semi-trailer bus in service in N.S.W.
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Reply By: Member - Dennis P (Scotland) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 03:35

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 03:35
Hey Doug,


Found this, taken from Alexandrina Council Oral Library,

'Rose: So what happened to you when you finished school? Did you go to
Victor High?
Helen: Mmm. That was an experience. (spoken wryly, followed by laugh)
Rose: Did you go on the train, or a bus?
Helen: No - we went on a semi-trailer school-bus! Abbott’s Semi! It was a
semi-trailer bus, and the goose-neck part of it, that went over the turntable,
was where all the baggage went, kids went all in the back - if you
misbehaved, there was an intercom from the truck to a prefect, or whoever
was the head in the bus, and if you were misbehaving, Mr. Abbott used to
stop the bus, get out, grab the kid, and throw them in the baggage cart - you
travelled in with the baggage! The old semi was quite good - it used to boil
going up Kleinig’s Hill, of course. In those days, Kleing’s Hill, there were
no houses - that was all scrub down to the beach. There was nothing there.
You weren’t at Victor Harbor till you went down the hill.
Rose: As late as the ‘60s? I wouldn’t have believed it.
Helen: I mean, it was Kleinig’s Hill because Kleinig’s were at the top of the
hill, but there was nothing. There was a couple, or three, fishermen shacks!
And of course when the semi boiled, what you did was, you let all the
windows down, hopped out, took off through the scrub down to the beach -
it used to take hours to find us to get us back on the bus. You’d miss most of
the day’s school!'

I remember this old bus from my days there.
Cheers,
Dennis



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Follow Up By: Member - Dennis P (Scotland) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 03:38

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 03:38
and this,

Pic of one

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Reply By: RV Powerstream P/L - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 07:15

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 07:15
That bring back memories as Lindsay Bros that was a bus company at Wallsend in the Hunter Valley that ran semi buses to and from the heavy industries at Port Waratah.

If I was in a hurry though I would ride my push bike as it was quicker than travelling on the bus as you could make up time by riding the old coal train line from Wallsend to Waratah West.

Thank you for reminding me of good days gone by.
Ian
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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 08:03

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 08:03
I recall those operated by the WAGR (WA Gov Railways) in the early 60s. Check this site for a few pics of WA semis.
WA Semi Buses
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Reply By: Member - Kingsley N (SA) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 08:34

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 08:34
Gidday Doug,

You've done it again! Spot on with Adelaide memories. When I was at Findon Primary School we were taken to the Henley Pool for Swimming Classes in a Bulls semi-bus. That would have been in about 1958. The driver (or a teacher) could make PA via a loudspeaker to the rowdy kids up the back. It was a privilege to ride in the cab where there were a number of seats.
Bulls Bus services were located on the Port Road at Alberton and they were big deal in those days. I believe that the name still exists as a trucking company and they do the NT run.

Henley Pool was a salt water pool at Henley Beach. Its most famous swimmer was Dawn Fraser who practiced and competed there. The pool was demolished years ago but some concrete starting blocks were preserved as a memorial.
I also remember catching the Wadmore's coach from North Terrace to Loxton and Renmark. Also an ancient bull nose coach with a baggage rack on the top was used to go to Mannum. You could probably identify it because of the curved lines. I think someone in Adelaide has a restored model that runs on special days like the Bay to Birdwood run.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:38

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:38
Kingo
Good one mate, I'd forgotten all about Wadmores ...the name , I used to catch the Adelaide-Mannum service each morning from Chain of Ponds to Millbrook School, it was a Bedford ,

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Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 08:47

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 08:47
Hey Doug, they were 5th wheelin' even back then....lol.

Cheers....Lionel.
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Reply By: Member - Mal and Di (SA) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 09:52

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 09:52
There is an interesting link herehttp://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A130219b.htm on Sylvia Birdseye who was bus driving legend in SA when I was a lot younger.
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Reply By: Member - Toolman (VIC) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:57

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:57
Doug,
An interesting post as usual.
Reminds me of the old Scarborough Beach Bus service bused of my youth in Perth. From memory they were painted blue and yellow.

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Reply By: Lotzi - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:15

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:15
G'day Doug T
Re the White bus prime mover, that vehicle is sitting under a tree with a for sale sign, on the southern end of Blunder Rd, near Forest Lake, Qld.
Needs a polish and some hair in the tyres.

Also those style of buses were used for many years by the Ryde buse company on a run along Victoria Rd from West Ryde to Parramatta around mid last century.
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Reply By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 14:46

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 14:46
Gee's Doug!
Where do you find em?

Yes, I remember those turntable bus's around the outer Western Suburbs of Sydney. Those that I recall all had bonneted prime movers and for some reason I always thought of them as being Diamond Reos', they well may have been Whites.

The old Parramatta Bus Company if I'm correct had a very strong relationship with the Howard Rotary Cultivator Factory at Northmead. Howards contributed to the war effort by churning out thousands of "walk behind" cultivators for shipment to the U.K.

The "semi" buses that I used to see were not used on scheduled routes, they were always utilised for charter work, tours, schools or club outings and that sort of thing.

Love your history photos.

Ian
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Reply By: Dave B (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 17:49

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 17:49
Some of you might remember seeing the Murray Valley Coaches semis going between Albury and Adelaide.
The service started in 1945 with White vehicles with a Gardner 5LW motor.

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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 23:28

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 23:28
I remember heading out of roll call to go on an excursion from high school at Bexley (southernn Sydney) in the mid 70's to find a similar bus waiting to take us to the Taronga Park Zoo I think it was. They were called Trailer Tours.

I remember being a bit worried when sitting in the front of the bus which swung out across the other side of the road on the tight corners. I don't know if we were but it felt like we were directly above the cars at times.

My wife used to teach with a guy who drove them in Newcastle for a while. Apparently the drivers liked them for school groups because they were away from the noise.

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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 23:58

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 23:58
Trailer Tours was the tourist side of the Parramatta Ryde Bus Service.

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