Itinerary comments for GRR

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Hi folks,

Currently working on a loose itinerary for a 6 month big lap and have allowed about a month for the Darwin to Broome section. We will be travelling with 2 girls (7yr and 5.5yr) and plan to be in a Pajero towing a Goldstream Storm OB camper. We would have already visited Kakadu on the way to Darwin.

Plan so far is as such leaving from Darwin (with number of nights):

Batchelor (Litchfield NP) 2
Katherine Gorge 1
Timber Creek 2
Lake Argyle 2
Kununurra 3
Wyndham 2
El Questro 3
Ellenbrae Station 1
Drysdale River Station 1
King Edward River Crossing (day trip to Mitchel Falls) 3
Drysdale River Station 1
Mount Barnett Roadhouse 2
Mornington Wilderness Camp 3
Silent Grove 2
Mt Hart Wilderness Lodge 1
Windjana Gorge Campsite 2
Fitzroy Crossing 2
Derby 2
Cable Beach (Broome) 4

Thanks in advance
Sass.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 16:43

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 16:43
Hi Sass

We spent three and a half weeks on the Gibb River Road section, with a further few weeks based in Kununurra (including camping out for a few days at Purnululu). I had no idea how long the GRR section would take and we very flexible with times. You itinerary looks feasible. My blogs from 2008 are in the My Blog section. We included a few days at Kalumburu.

Last year (blogs not yet completed) we went from Alice Springs to Darwin, and like you toured Kakadu (over a week) on the way north and Litchfield on the way south again (three days).

There is a lot between Katherine and WA we have yet to see. We spend a couple of days in the Keep River NP from Kununurra in 2008.

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Reply By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 16:49

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 16:49
Hi Sass, you could also include the old Karunjie Road south of Wyndham which is a great scenic 4WD option which covers a lot of the area used in filming 'Australia'.

Downsides are that you would miss some great bitumen road scenery south of Wyndham (assuming you are taking the Ivanhoe Xing back route along the Ord from Kununurra to Wyndham) and you would be backtracking between El Questro and the Pentecost Xing.

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Reply By: wendys - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 18:21

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 18:21
At Litchfield, you might be better to camp at one of the NP campgrounds further in than Batchelor, or at the Litchfield CP, near Wangi.
Unless you are going to try the boat trip on the Victoria River, there is no need to stay 2 nights at Timber Creek. 2 or 3 nights at Keep River NP would be much better value - scenery, walks, pleasant campground.
Unless you are intending to do the sunset cruise on Lake Argyle, you could just drive in and have a look round on your way from Keep River to Kununurra.
Really recommend you do the boat trip from Kununurra up the Ord to the Argyle Dam wall - you can do this both ways or combine it with a sunset cruise and bus trip back to Kununurra.
Although it is not that far from El Questro, suggest you stay a night or two at Home Valley. Camp at their camp by the Pentecost River - view to die for and the kids will almost certainly see crocs sunning themselves down on the river flats. Great place.
I have never stayed at Ellenbrae. You could do Home Valley to Drysdale River in one day.
Take a lot of care doing a day trip to the Mitchell Plateau. The track can be very difficult and many people who try to do it in one day come to grief because of going too fast. Corners, hazards, creek dips etc are often not signed in advance and there is the added hazard of hire vehicles to dodge.
Recommend that, either on way from Derby, or from Broome, you try to get up to Middle Lagoon for a couple of nights. The kids would love walking on the reef exposed there at low tide - magic rock pool and critters.
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Follow Up By: sassenach.girl - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 20:17

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 20:17
Thanks for your detailed reply. It is much appreciated! Have taken onboard your suggestions and agree that we could see Lake Argyle on the way to Kununurra (perhaps a nice stop!).

Have had a look at Middle Lagoon on EO ... it looks lovely, though I couldn't see any directions. Looks like it is a 2-3 hour drive from Broome, so we would need to go Derby > Broome > Middle Lagoon > Broome, before continuing south down the WA coast?

I am also wondering if we should give Mitchel Falls a miss. While we are planning to leave the camper at the KE River campsite, I've heard lots of bad things about the drive up to the falls, so perhaps we will leave it until 'next time' (without kids??).

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Follow Up By: wendys - Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 20:06

Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 20:06
There is a track from the highway between Broome and Derby across to the Dampier Peninsula, but I do not know what it is usually like - maybe ask someone on this forum about it?
We took our van from Broome to Middle Lagoon. From memory, took us about 3 hours, but we did have a good look around Beagle Bay on the way.
The Mitchell Falls are great, but really are best done when you can camp in there for a night or two.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:02

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:02
Hi Sass,

First up, for your sake I hope your emphasis really is on a "loose" itinerary as there are so many variables in a trip like this that trying to stick to a rigid timetable could be a nightmare. Our blogs for '08 cover much of this territory and cover a similar timeframe.

My suggestions re your proposed timetable:

Spend your Timber Creek night/s in Gregory NP at the old Bullita Homestead.
While in Kununurra do an Ord River Cruise.
Probably only need one night in Wyndham
Camp at King Edward River and do the drive in to the Mitchell Plateau from there - its a very corrugated road and trying to do it all in one day from Drysdale is too much IMHO.
Dont forget to walk Tunnel Creek - but 2 nights in Fitzroy Crosssing may not be necessary.

You have not mentioned the Bungles or the Gorges east of Old Halls Creek - both "must dos" if you can mange it.

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Val
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Follow Up By: sassenach.girl - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 20:20

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 20:20
Thanks for the reply Val. While we have set-out an itinerary with rough nights at each place, we will have 6 months so if something goes pear-shaped, we will just need to go with the flow!

We would love to go to the Bungles, though as far as I've researched, the camper can't go there and honestly, we don't want to take a tent etc just for the one place. So perhaps a 'next time' visit.
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 09:22

Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 09:22
Hi Sass,

You have had some really good advice in this thread! You can take a camper trailer into the Bungles but not a caravan. Its not a difficult drive but you do need to take it carefully and watch for oncoming traffic. A couple of nights there is a must as its a truly amazing place. But if you dont do the Bungles make sure you do Keep River NP as its similar, just on a smaller scale, but a real gem of a place.

Likewise the road into the Mitchell Plateau is OK provided that you drive to the conditions, lower your tyre pressure and watch out for oncomings. The falls are a magic place and the walk in is special. I dont think your children would find it too difficult if you allow plenty of time. You can take the helicopter "taxi" one way or both ways - if you choose one way I would suggest use it to come back.

There are a few special things in the way of helicopter flights and boat trips to do in this part of the world, and budget considerations may mean that you have to choose which ones to do. The flight out to the Horizontal Waterfall and boat ride up to and through the falls is wonderful, as is the cruise up the Ord river.

Have a wonderful trip,

Cheers,

Val
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Reply By: gjcumming - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:36

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:36
I second Keep River National Park after 1 night behind the road house at Timber Creek where you can view a very big freshwater crocodile on the creek bank.
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Follow Up By: sassenach.girl - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 20:20

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 20:20
Added! Thanks for the feedback!

Sass.
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Reply By: gjcumming - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:37

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 19:37
I second Keep River National Park after 1 night behind the road house at Timber Creek where you can view a very big freshwater crocodile on the creek bank.
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Reply By: Frances - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 20:45

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 20:45
Hi Sass, we took 5 kids around Australia that ranged in age from 4 up to 11 years. We went to the vast majority of places you have listed above and have the following advice for you: firstly, happy kids make for a happy holiday. Our itinerary was not to have an itinerary and to just go with the flow. We knew what date we were leaving and what date we had to be back.

Darwin has heaps to do with kids so allow plenty of time there - two weeks would be a good length of time to recharge your batteries. Use Broome as your next recharging spot and allow another two weeks there - make sure you stay out at Cable Beach rather than in Broome itself. The main attraction at Broome for the kids is the beach.

Another great place for the kids is Litchfield - allow a few days there and relax and enjoy one place a day. Buley Rock Holes are probably the best for the kids but all the falls are fantastic but there is a lot of travelling to do in there.

You can't really appreciate the enormity of the Ord river scheme and the magnificence of the Bungle Bungles without flying over them so lash out and shout yourselves a helicopter flight - it will be money really well spent and the kids will never forget it.

It's below Broome but 80 Mile Beach is an absolute must - beach driving and collecting the most amazing shells will keep the kids occupied for days.

I wish I was going again. enjoy.

Frances

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Follow Up By: sassenach.girl - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 21:01

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 21:01
Hi Frances, thanks for replying! Just wondering, did you take the kids up to Mitchell Falls? I'm thinking that the long walk to the falls is too far for my two ... therefore there is no point doing the arduous drive for them to bail on the walking part!

Great idea about the heli-ride over the Bungles! Have added it to the list. And we've got 4 days at 80 Mile Beach planned :)
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Follow Up By: Frances - Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 12:38

Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 12:38
No we didn't go to Mitchell Falls as we had an on-road Expanda. (When we got home we sold it and bought an off-road camper trailer so we could go to all the "good spots" on future trips)

With regards to walking though my advice is to build every excursion around the kids. In our case our youngest was 4 so everything we did had to be doable by a 4 year old. A couple of times though one of us elected to stay at the caravan or car and the other person took the older kids e.g. walking the rim at Kings Canyon, climbing Ayers Rock etc.

The other tip I will give you is to eat as you drive. I know this sounds strange but pull up only to stretch your legs and exercise. So for instance I would have a bag of fruit, a plate and a sharp knife in a green shopping bag at my feet in the car and i would cut up fruit, cheese, kabana etc. and hand it back to the kids whilst my husband drove. This keeps the kids occupied whilst driving. Then when we would pull up for a break while the kids were running around playing I would get out the lunch things and make the lunch then when we got back in the car I would hand each child their lunch to eat whilst we drove.

The other thing is to spend money on some tours. We did a cruise at Yellow Water in Kakadu for instance - the guides are great and very informative -great for the kids' general knowledge. We did have people make comments to us on how much money we spent on doing tours however we rarely drink alcohol (3 glasses per year) and I noticed that a lot of other people spent far more money on alcohol whilst travelling than we did on educating our kids through doing tours. (That's how we justified it anyway).

cheers Frances
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 21:19

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 21:19
We did the GRR a few years back. I think it was into day 2 the itinerary went out the window.

Enjoy it, don't rush it.
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Reply By: Member - Howard T (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 20:45

Wednesday, Nov 03, 2010 at 20:45
Home Valley Station is much better that Ellenbrae. Although a bit more expensive.We stayed at both in July. If you stay at Ellenbrae make sure you have mosquito coils or repellent. they were really bad. Also watch one ofthe creek crossings going in as its pretty rocky.

Cheers

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Reply By: b&g - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 00:11

Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 00:11
Mate we are on the road now have been for 9 months we have two kids and the only thing we planed was where we would go, but not for how long. Just head that way and you will sort it out. On that how $expensive is it for kids in caravan parks gezzz!!!and for what?
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