Kakadu, etc
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:31
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munza
On our last trip I got a great response from readers about a few problems so I am going to go again.
We have a Merc Sprinter motorhome and would like to know about camping in
Kakadu,
Litchfield, etc. Would we be better to go on a tour group rather than taking thje MH into
kakadu, etc. We would like to
free camp where possible, ie national parks are ok but away from the more commercial
places.
We have been into Keep River in it and have crossed from
Hyden to
Norseman on the Discovery trail and are heading to WA again in March so we're not too concerned about gravel/dirt roads.
How busy will it be in these parks in June; would we need to book ahead for them; also looking for
places of 8interest down through central Queensland.
Munza
Reply By: Steve63 - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:52
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 16:52
Camping is available for the usual fee in both parks. Most of the main roads in both parks are sealed. I have never been to the parks in June but I suspect that would be peak season. We normally go at the begining and end of the season so do not usually book. It is usually a waste of money for us. I don't think you can book in
Litchfield but you can in the commercial parks on the perimeter of
Litchfield. Who knows at Kakadon't. In our eyes Kakado had nothing to recommend it and left after a few days (had planned a week there) and have no intention of returning. Don't let me put you off it just didn't suit us. If you are looking at
places to go try Kobold
Gorge, Undara Lava tubes,
Karumba,
Lawn Hill NP.
Steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Barnesy (SA) - Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 02:53
Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 02:53
Will be going to
Kakadu for the first time in a few months. Surely if you felt disappointed by the place you weren't trying very hard or had unrealistic expectations?
Barnesy
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 08:42
Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 08:42
We used to live in
Darwin and the local opinion was that
Kakadu was an overblown tourist trap. We went there twice in 6 years of territory camping. It was worth a visit but our family prefered
Litchfield and other
places for time away.
Pete
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Follow Up By: Steve63 - Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:49
Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:49
Afraid I agree with Pete. We went to
Litchfield first and felt
Kakadu was there to cater for the overseas/upper market tourist trade. We do not fit into that space so it did not suit us. I thought I made it clear in my reply that it was a personal preference issue. Lots of people go there and think it is great. I did not. It has nothing to do with the scenery which is great but has more to do with the feel of the place. I certainly did not have any preconcieved ideas. We were planning a week there so we thought there was going to be plenty to see and there is. We normally do a lot of walking and anything up to 8 - 10km is considered so we were prepared to go to a fair amout of effort to see things. Everyone is different, we don't all have to like the same thing. I did also indicate that munza should not be put off by my
views but to make up his own mind. One of the reasons that we don't tend to book is so that we are free to move on or stay longer. We ended up spending extra days at
Lawn Hill and Kobold
Gorge as they suited us better. I would never say don't go to Kakado, just that it is not what I would recommend. Barnsey and munza have never been there, they should go and make up there own mind.
Steve
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Reply By: Member - vivien C (VIC) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 20:08
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 20:08
Hello Munza,
About
Kakadu. The majority of roads are sealed. I've only been there in August/September but would imagine June to be busier. There are quite a few National Park camps and some of them were no charge when I was there. You will be able to find out by googling
Kakadu National Park. We stayed at Mardugal which has
toilets and showers...Cooinda which is an organised caravan park. Both these had charges. We also stayed at Shady Lagoon, Mardugal and
Sandy Billabong which are national park camps with no facilities and no charge.
Don't be put off going to
Kakadu by those who say it is not worth the trip. We have been there five times and each time found something more to enjoy.
Kakadu isn't like
Litchfield where the waterfalls and pools can be accessed with out any effort.
Kakadu requires you to do some walking, do some exploring and take the time. In my opinion you will find it all worthwhile.
Go to Gunlom and climb to the top of the falls...swim in the pools there and look out over the fantastic view. Go to Jim Jim and
Twin Falls,
Nourlangie Rock with its magnificent aboriginal art...watch the sunset at
Ubirr Rock, take the morning or evening cruise on Yellow Waters and see the birdlife and the crocs. When we did it they stopped the motors in the middle of a waterlily filled lagoon...and the silence was only broken by the sound of the birds. It was just beautiful.
There's all that and so much more. All the while think that you're in a World
Heritage area...a magnificent place.
When you head to queensland..it is definitely worthwhile making the detour north of Mt Isa to
Lawn Hill Gorge...and then I also agree with the previous writer that
Cobbold Gorge, Undara Lava Tubes are
well worth a visit. Further south around
Winton you could
check out the
Lark Quarry dinosaur footprints and the
gemfields near
Emerald.
Carnarvon Gorge is another place worth visiting...along with it's satellite parks of Salvatore Rosa, Ka Ka Mundi and Mt Moffatt. There is a hot springs swimming
pool at
Mitchell near
Roma and you could stop at
Yowah to fossick for opals. Central Queensland has a lot to offer.
Best wishes for your trip planning and travels
'Viv
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 22:25
Wednesday, Jan 31, 2007 at 22:25
Don't be deterred. Some years back we were expecting that
kakadu would be overrun by tourists. But we were pleasantly surprised that the
camp areas were
well designed - so campers were not stuck on top of one another, and generators were segregated off from the quiet campers. We had a great time.
But give me a desert any day!!!!
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Follow Up By: bruce - Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 12:59
Thursday, Feb 01, 2007 at 12:59
When we were at
Kakadu the noisiest
places were where the generators were not allowed...screaming , yelling , loud music blaring till very late at night...we complained to a
ranger and was offered an extra night for free...sadly could not accept as we were booked on tour of the
Ranger mine the next day....cheers
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Reply By: munza - Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:41
Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:41
Thanks to all for those reploies - will wait on a few more; once again thanks see you out there!
Munza
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 11:10
Friday, Feb 02, 2007 at 11:10
Thoght both parks were worth visiting although the best quitest part of
litchfield was the 4wd track where I camped near a waterfall by myself.
Kakadu has some
free camp options (in 2003) however
Gunlom falls is worth paying to
camp.
Kakadu can be frustrating as they have shut off perfectly good roads you have to walk down to get to spots often quite a few km.
Never mind the Kakadont tag that is from peed off Darwinites who liked going there shooting and camping whereever etc
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Reply By: steve&anja - Sunday, Feb 18, 2007 at 23:11
Sunday, Feb 18, 2007 at 23:11
Hi Munza let me help you out ,
Litchfield NP is a nice place to visit for a day or two nice waterfalls such as
Florence falls, Bueley
rock hole,
Tolmer falls,
Wangi falls camp sites are approx $6 pp pd limited facilities.
However
Kakadu is a great place to visit for 5-7 days. There are
free camp grounds pay
camp grounds $5.40 pp pd and 4 lodge style resorts poa and unless your a blind bed ridden quadriplegic there is heaps to do.
Mamakala wetlands bird hides up to 3km easy walk,
Ubirr Rock 1km easy walk extensive
rock art
lookout great sunset 1km to Merl payed
camp ground $5.40 pp pd clean hot shower facilities,
Nourlangie Rock 1km easy walk extensive
rock art
lookout, Nangulwar 3km easy walk extensive
rock art Gunlom (Waterfall Creek) 40 km dirt road suitable 2wd in june payed
camp ground (same as merl) 200mtr walk to falls swimming top and bottom,Bowali
visitor centre (park headquarters) Waradjan cultural centre.
All the above is free
The park has 2 great boat cruises Guluyambi (
East Alligator river) Yellow Water cruise (sunrise or sunset) approx $50 pp there are a few 4wd day tours
well worth the effort E.G Animal Tracks ( www.animaltracks.com.au) Arnhemland day tour (www.lords safaris.com) These operators are personal friends and business associates I also operate a day tour to Jim Jim and
Twin falls these details can be seen on the lords web site as I purchased this day tour from them last year and to be fair I have a competitor that run there tours out of Cooinda resort
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 18, 2007 at 23:30
Sunday, Feb 18, 2007 at 23:30
The post by Steve&Anja is a good one. We spent 3 days in
Litchfield. Wonderful place. Smaller than
Kakadu, so not as much driving.
Litchfield is all about the swimming spots, water falls etc.
Well worth a visit.
Kakadu is very different. Don't miss the Yellow Water tour. I reckon sunset is the best. Gunlom is a great spot. Didn't get to Jim Jim. Roads were still closed when we were there last year.
Most of the NP
camp grounds are pretty good.
Make sure you have lots of insect spray. The mozzies will carry you away. The further North we went, the worse they got.
Must admit, my wife did not enjoy
Kakadu as much as I do. But she was eaten alive by mozzies and Midgies (despite always using spray).
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Reply By: munza - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 10:38
Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 10:38
Thanks everyone for your input - seems that everyone has his/her own agenda and interests.
Munza
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